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| Frostbreath | Date: Tuesday, 11.12.2012, 22:06 | Message # 421 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) I have considered that. You should probably make an out-of-the-way link, maybe accessible only via the forum, and explicitly state that that version has no textures, so that way there will be no confusion. I just really do not want to spend 3 hours to download 0.97 when it is released
3 hours for 600MB? You must have an incredibly slow connection. :O
Amateur astronomer. Owner of a Celestron C8 telescope and, of course, Space Engine. Translator for Dutch.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Tuesday, 11.12.2012, 22:08 | Message # 422 |
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| Quote (Frostbreath) You must have an incredibly slow connection
I do.
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| Salvo | Date: Tuesday, 11.12.2012, 22:58 | Message # 423 |
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| Quote (Frostbreath) 3 hours for 600MB? You must have an incredibly slow connection.
He's not alone 
The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition.
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(still don't know why everyone is doing this...)
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| Red_River | Date: Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 01:06 | Message # 424 |
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| heracy! am I sensing the coolest Xmas / NY gift just around the corner? we are takin' 'bout downloadin' next big update here aren't we?
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| Kimb | Date: Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 03:03 | Message # 425 |
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| Quote (Frostbreath) 3 hours for 600MB? You must have an incredibly slow connection.
I can remember the days of the 56K dialup modems, download speeds only 5 or 6 kB per second; downloading a file of 600 MB would back then have taken almost a full (24 HOUR) day!
Edited by Kimb - Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 03:04 |
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 03:17 | Message # 426 |
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| There is a discussion going on on the Russian forum about internet prices. It's about 50 times cheaper there than it is in the US. It's depressing...
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| Kimb | Date: Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 03:24 | Message # 427 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) There is a discussion going on on the Russian forum about internet prices. It's about 50 times cheaper there than it is in the US. It's depressing...
Depressing? It's sickening and just plain not @#%$&$ fair!!
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| apenpaap | Date: Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 03:28 | Message # 428 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) I have considered that. You should probably make an out-of-the-way link, maybe accessible only via the forum, and explicitly state that that version has no textures, so that way there will be no confusion.
I agree with this: make the standard download page have only the link to the full update to prevent herpderps from downloading just a patch and then complaining there's a bug, but also have a link to a patch without textures that are already in 0.96 in a forum thread would help for those who already have it. It would also save a lot of bandwidth on the download server.
I occasionally stream at http://www.twitch.tv/magistermystax. Sometimes SE, sometimes other games.
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| werdnaforever | Date: Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 05:41 | Message # 429 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) Conquesti, what are you talking about? The whole purpose of SE is to simulate the real universe. I don't know what you mean by unreal fictional universe.
I believe he's referring to procedural generation of galaxies, stars, planets, etc. As we know, these are fictional, but they are realistic.
In my opinion, the best way to put it is that SE fills in the blanks- the real universe is there- charted galaxies, stars, etc. It's surrounded by the "fictional" artificial terrain.
How about a version with very low resolution textures? Anything's better than nothing.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 05:59 | Message # 430 |
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| Quote (werdnaforever) How about a version with very low resolution textures?
...why would you advocate for a version with very low resolution textures when we already have textures that are nice? If you want low res textures, you can do that yourself with the existing ones: delete the high level tiles, or for the single image ones just downres them. Not sure why you'd want to, but even so it would not require a special release.
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Edited by HarbingerDawn - Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 06:00 |
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 21:37 | Message # 431 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) ...why would you advocate for a version with very low resolution textures when we already have textures that are nice? If you want low res textures, you can do that yourself with the existing ones: delete the high level tiles, or for the single image ones just downres them. Not sure why you'd want to, but even so it would not require a special release.
I guess he said about new release - include in it the textures with even lower resolution than that in 0.96, to save on file size.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Wednesday, 12.12.2012, 22:05 | Message # 432 |
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| Quote (SpaceEngineer) I guess he said about new release - include in it the textures with even lower resolution than that in 0.96, to save file size.
Ah that makes more sense. It would still make more sense to release a no-texture version alongside the regular version than to release a low texture version though.
All forum users, please read this!
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| Salvo | Date: Thursday, 13.12.2012, 14:54 | Message # 433 |
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| HarbingerDawn, i have a question, you uploaded a 64x texture of some GB and you can't download SE?
The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition.
CPU: Intel Core i7 4770 GPU: ASUS Radeon R9 270 RAM: 8 GBs
(still don't know why everyone is doing this...)
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| vosk_010858 | Date: Thursday, 13.12.2012, 14:57 | Message # 434 |
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| werdnaforever | Date: Thursday, 13.12.2012, 17:32 | Message # 435 |
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| Quote (vosk_010858) I hope, Solar System textures should be work with procedural textures with real (Solar System) height (bumpmap) data and SpaceEngine size will more small than previous versions.
Heightmaps are still textures.
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