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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Thursday, 01.11.2012, 21:30 | Message # 226 |
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| Quote (Aaron) Humans are seeing approximately 90-95 degrees per eye with overlap, for nearly 180 degree full FOV.
Actually each eye has the 160-170° FOV; the FOVs are not added. This is because both eyes face the same direction. So the total FOV is the same as the FOV of each eye. It's just that your nose might get in the way of each eye in one direction 
Quote (Aaron) It seems to me that the correct thing to do is figure out auto exposure.
Yes. I have stressed this time and again.
Quote (n3xt) Does that mean that the weird square shaped massive stars will become more or less round?
It means he fixed it. The stars will be round.
Quote (n3xt) Or perhaps an idea to use both as well for example
No, this is a bad idea and makes no sense.
Quote (smjjames) Actually, I think you have a good idea there, similarily it could be 290K (62.33 °F) or 62.33 °F (290K) since it'd be cool to have both values, and perhaps have an option whether or not to show the default measurement?
No. You guys, space is already at a premium on the HUD as it is, that kind of thing should not be implemented. There's no room and it would look bad. SE has already said that he plans to make it something like being able to click on the units and have them cycle.
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| Salvo | Date: Thursday, 01.11.2012, 23:05 | Message # 227 |
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| Quote (Aaron) Humans are seeing approximately 90-95 degrees per eye with overlap, for nearly 180 degree full FOV
Right, but most of the view is blurred by the mind, try lo look something without look it directly xD
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Thursday, 01.11.2012, 23:39 | Message # 228 |
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| Quote (Salvo) Right, but most of the view is blurred by the mind, try lo look something without look it directly
Yes I know that, there is a small FOV directly in front that is very sharp, then around that there is a larger FOV that is not as clear, then around that there is a larger FOV out to 170° that is indistinct but great at registering movement (this is called peripheral vision). My point was that each eye does not have a 90° FOV, but in fact has the full FOV.
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| boyan3001 | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 01:31 | Message # 229 |
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| Quote (Baleur) But..... Why? I really don't understand the need to translate custom names that people give stars or planets...
I mean, names have no need to be translated.
That's why I wrote transcripted frist, not translated. 
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 06:35 | Message # 230 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) Quote (n3xt)Or perhaps an idea to use both as well for example No, this is a bad idea and makes no sense.
I plan to make a new settings window where you will choose a measure unit and an optional secondary measure unit. For example:
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Quantity Unit 1 Unit 2
Temperature [°C] [°F]
Small distances [miles] [kilometers]
Medium distances [AU] [none]
Big distances [parsecs] [light years]
Planet radius [kilometers] [none]
Planet mass [MEarth] [kilograms]
So an object's info would print as:
Code Distance 21.6 pc (70.416 ly)
For Unit 2 you may simply choose "none" to not display it.
Quote (HarbingerDawn) SE has already said that he plans to make it something like being able to click on the units and have them cycle.
Or this as an alternative.
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| n3xt | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 08:35 | Message # 231 |
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But what about Kelvin (K)?
Maybe it's a better option to keep K as basic... 2 examples:
Unit 1
Temperature: 273 K (??? °F) Sorry I'm unfamiliar with Fahrenheit and too lazy to calculate xD
Unit 2
Temperature: 273 K (0 °C) 
Also I see that Unit 1 uses miles wich is used primarily in the English-speaking countries ofcourse with some exceptions and so does Fahrenheit, lets say according to the American measurement system
While Unit 2 uses kilometers and is more European based and so does Celcius, wich I use here in Holland xD
@HarbingerDawn's post below this one ---> Oh thanks for the quick answer. Always find °F a weird measurement. Funny how they say in the U.S.A. it's 100 degrees! o.O imagine that in °C xD
Oh glad to know that Vladimir fixed the sugar cube stars 
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 08:36 | Message # 232 |
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| Quote (n3xt) Sorry I'm unfamiliar with Fahrenheit and too lazy to calculate xD
273.15 K = 0 °C = 32 °F
And he will keep Kelvin as an option, he was just giving examples.
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 08:44 | Message # 233 |
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| Quote (n3xt) But what about Kelvin (K)?
I said that there will be a menu where you can choose any unit for every quantity, with an optional second unit.
Quote (n3xt) Also I see that Unit 1 uses miles wich is used primarily in the English-speaking countries ofcourse with some exceptions and so does Fahrenheit, lets say according to the American measurement system
This is just a sample of how the menu may look! The square brackets are drop-down lists!
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| apenpaap | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 11:04 | Message # 234 |
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| Quote (SpaceEngineer) Quantity Unit 1 Unit 2
Temperature [°C] [°F]
Small distances [miles] [kilometers]
Medium distances [AU] [none]
Big distances [parsecs] [light years]
Planet radius [kilometers] [none]
Planet mass [MEarth] [kilograms]
What about Gigametres and Terametres for medium distances too and Peta metres, Exametres, Zettametres, and Yottametres for big distances? Especially on the medium distances, I'd prefer to use those.
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| smjjames | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 11:40 | Message # 235 |
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| Quote (apenpaap) Quote (SpaceEngineer)
Quantity Unit 1 Unit 2
Temperature [°C] [°F]
Small distances [miles] [kilometers]
Medium distances [AU] [none]
Big distances [parsecs] [light years]
Planet radius [kilometers] [none]
Planet mass [MEarth] [kilograms]
What about Gigametres and Terametres for medium distances too and Peta metres, Exametres, Zettametres, and Yottametres for big distances? Especially on the medium distances, I'd prefer to use those.
Why not add all of the types of measurements, all the way from hogsheads to googolmeters? :P /sarcasm
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 12:17 | Message # 236 |
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| Quote (smjjames) Why not add all of the types of measurements, all the way from hogsheads to googolmeters? :P /sarcasm
Apenpaap has a point, meters and metric prefixes for it would make for quite a reasonable option (and/or meters/kilometers with scientific notation).
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| Baleur | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 15:42 | Message # 237 |
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| Quote (SpaceEngineer) Fixed a bug with "suqre shaped stars" when Real Sun Brightness on
OH! MY GOD!
Can anyone provide some input as to wether this setting is actually more realistic or not?
I know it's incredibly overpoweringly bright in certain systems, i'm just curious as to if it's actually more realistic, given how insanely wide the difference in real stars luminosity can be.
(even to the point where, as before when we discussed the eyes and camera way of adjusting automatically, some stars are just so incredibly powerful that it'd make no difference how small our pupil was contracted)
Request: I would love a way to manually edit the Real Planet Brightness setting. I love that planets very close to stars get over-exposed, but i dislike the under-exposed far away planets. Is there anyway in any file somewhere that i can change the minimum and maximum values for RPB?
Edited by Baleur - Friday, 02.11.2012, 19:58 |
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 20:25 | Message # 238 |
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| Quote (Baleur) Can anyone provide some input as to wether this setting is actually more realistic or not?
It is meant to be used to compare the relative brightnesses of two or more stars. For lone stars it makes to sense to use it except sometimes for aesthetic effect if you want. It is similar to the purpose of Real Planet Brightness.
Quote (Baleur) Is there anyway in any file somewhere that i can change the minimum and maximum values for RPB?
No
Quote (Baleur) some stars are just so incredibly powerful that it'd make no difference how small our pupil was contracted)
But in SE we simulate a camera, not an eye, and there are cameras that can expose properly even under stupefyingly extreme light conditions.
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| Antza2 | Date: Friday, 02.11.2012, 23:04 | Message # 239 |
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| These water shaders in SE would cause a serious awesome overload. Think of the huge waves on an oceania!
Go to antza2.deviantart.com for cool photos!
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| Joey_Penguin | Date: Saturday, 03.11.2012, 01:15 | Message # 240 |
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| Concerning the issue of procedural sound generation, perhaps we could have a premade track play depending on the general environment you're in (be it intergalactic, near a nebula or galactic core, etc.)
And then, when you approach a star system (within a few hundred AU's), the engine could then generate the sound of the central body.
When you approach a planet, ambient music could play. One could imagine serene, beautiful music for warm terras with life, and an eerie, silent beat for frozen selenas.
Finally, when you enter the atmosphere (if it has one, of course  ), the engine plays various ambiences like wind, water, and your engines.
The whole system could work like this site:
http://www.ambient-mixer.com/
Careful. The PLATT Collective has spurs.
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