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| midtskogen | Date: Friday, 31.01.2014, 08:50 | Message # 106 |
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| I'll use this thread for a new topic, since it's about music.
As you know, the Voyager spacecrafts carry a golden record, which among other things contains a wide selection of music. The record is a message to any alien civilisations out there. I suppose music was selected because it shows some of the nature and artistic skills of humankind. But can we expect all that music to make sense to any aliens?
So what is music, why do we like it? Music generally contains three elements: rhythm, melody and harmony.
Rhythm mimics the human heartbeat. Rhythm stops having much appeal if it falls outside roughly 40 to 240 beats per minute, closely matching the human heart rate. Alien hearts may have totally different rates, or they might have a totally different circulation system, in which case our musical rhythm and the music will make no sense. Take rhythm away from music and the music will stop making sense to us as well.
Melody mimics the human speech. But aliens may have very different ways of communication by audio, and our melodies and speech may have as little appeal to them as the sounds of bats or crickets appeal us.
Harmony follows mathematical relationships, and should be universally understandable. But does it have any value beyond the banal? Would make any more impression on aliens than a collection of, say, factorised numbers would impress us?
While the origin of music perhaps goes back to storytelling and techniques for memorising, music stands on its own feet. But what makes music work for us is very human.
I think it's extremely unlikely that the random alien out there would appreciate the music as we do. However, if an alien species does, which cannot be ruled out, then that is the alien species that we'd like to know.
NIL DIFFICILE VOLENTI
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| Voekoevaka | Date: Friday, 31.01.2014, 11:15 | Message # 107 |
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| This is also something I was always thinking, and this is a question of channel. The golden recorf contains a vinyl, which is just the sound signal represented by a carved line on adisc. We, humans, we percieve music through sound, as it will make no sens to "listen" a music lookibg to its graph. The range of frequency we can hear is between 20 and 20000 Hz, and in music, we use from 10 to 10000 Hz (too much trebleis unpleasent, but we use sometime infrasound bassto make people "feel" the vibrations).
if the aliens can appreciate a certain form of signal, they can strecth/adapt our music for their perception. But they will not percieve all from music, as there are a lot of cultural aspects of it (instruments used, language of lyrics, presence of lyrics, used scale...). The only aspects they will notice will be some mathematical properties of music, like the frequencies ratios, octaves, thestructure of the beats, which is geometrical.
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| Salvo | Date: Friday, 02.05.2014, 17:50 | Message # 108 |
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| Playing randomly the guitar I found the notes of Eternal Moment (GoodStreet), one of the soundtracks of Space Engine 
Here the sheet/tab:
P.S.: It gave me nostalgia attacks 
The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Tuesday, 20.05.2014, 01:32 | Message # 109 |
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| A new video released by Pink Floyd as a teaser for something to be announced tomorrow.
Space.com article
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All forum users, please read this!
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| Watsisname | Date: Tuesday, 20.05.2014, 17:54 | Message # 110 |
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| ^That is quite spectacular! Now up for pre-ordering.
On another note, the latest Ultimae release, Passages, is a very nice listen as well.
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| Salvo | Date: Wednesday, 21.05.2014, 18:00 | Message # 111 |
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| Quote HarbingerDawn (  ) Pink Floyd
Ok, the situation is this:
- You get angry with your fellows and you leave them.
- You have to fight the super-strong capitain of a spaceship.
- You miserably loose the fight.
- You're almost dead and you're talking with the guy.
- The fellows that you left, forgive you and come back to help you in the fight.
Do you think this music fits good?
The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition.
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| Gabe | Date: Thursday, 22.05.2014, 23:41 | Message # 112 |
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| I listen to:
AC/DC
Guns 'n Roses
Linkin Park
Doctor P
Skrillex
Knife Party
It Takes Two To Tango
The Mavrik
Metallica
Rammstein
Skism
Zomboy
I think I got quite the variation of genres 
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| BeyondBirthday | Date: Sunday, 01.06.2014, 06:04 | Message # 113 |
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| I like to listen all kind of music. But my Top 3 bands would be Aerosmith, Muse, and Slash. I got my first Aerosmith record when I was seven. And last night I saw them live, for the first time. It was amazing. As for the instruments, I play guitar and piano. And I like to write songs every now and then, and they're pretty astronomy related.
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| Proteus | Date: Sunday, 01.06.2014, 08:07 | Message # 114 |
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| Some random picks from my YouTube's Favorites playlist (see how you like them)
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| Salvo | Date: Sunday, 01.06.2014, 12:16 | Message # 115 |
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| BeyondBirthday, interesting, did you every tryed to record something?
The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition.
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| laiod | Date: Friday, 06.06.2014, 19:55 | Message # 116 |
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| http://youtu.be/ZueoFgG3oJ8
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Friday, 06.06.2014, 22:36 | Message # 117 |
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| Billy_Mayes | Date: Monday, 16.06.2014, 20:26 | Message # 118 |
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Satie's Gymnopédie No.1 is just... beautiful.
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| pebble | Date: Tuesday, 17.06.2014, 07:29 | Message # 119 |
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| Some little-known music I adore:
Genesis by Grimes - Such a brilliant deconstruction of modern pop music videos, and so haunting.
Crayons by Starkid (may he rest in peace!) (Habersham & Numinous remix) - Love those drum rolls.
Give Me Loving by Goloka - Something about the reverb in this track creates a sense of infinite space.
What's a Girl To Do? by Bat For Lashes - I never tire of this music video and its Donnie Darko flavor.
The Seduction of Claude Debussy by Art of Noise - in my opinion one of the greatest albums of the 20th Century.
The Ride by Alec Empire - For when I'm feeling growly!
Excerpt from Tout Le Matins du Monde soundtrack - so archaic and yet dripping with erotic tension.
The Pearl by Brian Eno and Harold Budd - My favorite album of the 1980s, but of course your mileage will vary.
Labccr by Floex - this takes a while to get going, but eventually gets super funky.
Lux Aurumque by Eric Whitacre's Virtual Choir - this always makes me cry.
Nothing Is Real by Makyo - Love those Sheila Chandra soundbites.
Consciousness by Kid Kenobi - Instant mental vacation.
Wednesday by Saiko-Pod - Super funky, this track constantly mutates into ever-greater awesomeness.
Minded Music Sessions 009 mixed by Roald Velden - I sure do love me some Progressive House. The bit at 2:30 just takes me away.
Rescue by ABA Structure
Lost In Thought by John Hopkins - ignore the fact that I made this music video (with some Space Engine shots!) for my friend Lady Wallace as background music for her reading of a Sapphic poem. The track is still awesome.
Edited by pebble - Tuesday, 17.06.2014, 08:32 |
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| laiod | Date: Tuesday, 17.06.2014, 18:06 | Message # 120 |
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| I strictly listen to classical music and some 'techo' stuff if that is the right genre. Most of the music of today I do not like, most meaning there are still a few composers out there who are good.
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