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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Monday, 03.06.2013, 22:59 | Message # 76 |
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| Quote (neutronium76) From what I currently understand SE renders 1st procedural stars, 2nd galaxy and nebula sprites, 3rd catallog stars.
Yes.
Quote (neutronium76) 1st procedural & catalog stars below certain luminosity < 2nd galaxy and nebula sprites < 3rd proc&catalog above certain luminosity.
This wouldn't work. It looks like a bad fake.
The right method is doing a raytracing for each star in the galaxy's 3D dust map. For stars that a inside the nebula, a separate raytracing in its 3D dust map is required. Or, instead of ray-tracing, a cunning multi-pass render method, that I plan to experiment with.
For now, this render order may be a better way:
1) galaxy model
2) catalog stars
3) procedural stars
4) clusters models
5) nebulae models
It is not easy to move catalog star rendering into this order, because stages 1, 3, 4, 5 are integrated in the galaxy's class render method. Catalog stars is a separate entity in the SE. Some trick must be used to make them embedded into galaxy render pipeline. For example, only galaxy named "Milky Way" or have some key in the script would have catalog stars render in it. But then some problems will be with extragalactic catalog stars, like S Doradus in the LMC - it will be incorrectly faded by LMC's dust sprites.
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| Voekoevaka | Date: Wednesday, 05.06.2013, 15:30 | Message # 77 |
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| I'm creating systems for my RPG, and I notice I can make it faster if I generate procedurally new systems with SE, export them and tweak them a bit.
But there's some problems with it : when the system is exported, there an average of 400 asteroids/comets on the file that causes an epic slowness when I load them.
I think an option to export systems without asteroids and comets should be great.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Wednesday, 05.06.2013, 16:00 | Message # 78 |
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| Quote (Voekoevaka) But there's some problems with it : when the system is exported, there an average of 400 asteroids/comets on the file that causes an epic slowness when I load them.
Asteroid belts and comet clouds are generated together in the catalog script, so it would take very little time to remove them.
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| Voekoevaka | Date: Wednesday, 05.06.2013, 16:16 | Message # 79 |
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| How do you do ?
Notepad++ crashes when I try to close objects on the file.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Wednesday, 05.06.2013, 16:31 | Message # 80 |
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| Quote (Voekoevaka) close objects on the file
I don't understand this
After you export the system, just delete all the asteroids and comets from the catalog before putting it back into SE as a catalog system. The asteroids and comets around a star or barycenter are grouped together so they are easy to find and delete.
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| Fireinthehole- | Date: Thursday, 06.06.2013, 16:01 | Message # 81 |
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| Space Engine simulates atmospheric extinction, is it possible also to simulate refraction? 
When the Moon is low in the sky, it looks reddish and a little like a rugby ball.
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Edited by Fireinthehole - Thursday, 06.06.2013, 16:04 |
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Thursday, 06.06.2013, 17:21 | Message # 82 |
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| Quote (Fireinthehole) Space Engine simulates atmospheric extinction, is it possible also to simulate refraction?
It is possible, but hard at this stage.
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| Fireinthehole- | Date: Thursday, 06.06.2013, 17:52 | Message # 83 |
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| Quote (SpaceEngineer) It is possible, but hard at this stage.
Will it be a feature in future releases of Space Engine?
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Thursday, 06.06.2013, 17:55 | Message # 84 |
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| Quote (Fireinthehole) Will it be a feature in future releases of Space Engine?
Anyway, I should note: as long as SE is a scientifically accurate Universe simulator, then one day it will implement ALL space objects and phenomenon that are known to modern astronomy. So you may not bother yourself with questions like "will SE one day have meteor rain implemented". I guarantee that it WILL.
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| Voekoevaka | Date: Thursday, 06.06.2013, 20:37 | Message # 85 |
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| I have read an article about asteroids, and I was surprised to learn that a lot of them are binary or contact binaries.
I think this feature will be easy to implement in Space Engine.
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| Fireinthehole- | Date: Thursday, 06.06.2013, 21:06 | Message # 86 |
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| HarbingerDawn, sorry I must have missed that message. Great though!
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| Joey_Penguin | Date: Friday, 07.06.2013, 01:53 | Message # 87 |
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| Quote (Voekoevaka) I think [Contact binary asteroids] will be easy to implement in Space Engine.
Would this also apply to planets and stars?
Careful. The PLATT Collective has spurs.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Friday, 07.06.2013, 05:15 | Message # 88 |
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| Quote (Joey_Penguin) Would this also apply to planets and stars?
SE already has binary planets and stars. Contact binary stars also technically exist in SE, but to implement them properly requires a lot of work and is not possible right now.
Contact binary planets are impossible.
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| Joey_Penguin | Date: Sunday, 30.06.2013, 03:44 | Message # 89 |
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| SpaceEngineer, What would the outcome be if, instead of releasing a huge update with over half a dozen new features once a year, you released smaller, 0.97.1 scale updates once a month or every other month, with one new feature and any bug fixes, like Pioneer Space Sim did?
Careful. The PLATT Collective has spurs.
Edited by Joey_Penguin - Sunday, 30.06.2013, 03:46 |
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| neutronium76 | Date: Sunday, 30.06.2013, 12:35 | Message # 90 |
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| He is already working on SE 0.97.1. Patience young Padawan 
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Edited by neutronium76 - Sunday, 30.06.2013, 12:36 |
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