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Work progress and public beta test - 0.9.7.4
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| PlutonianEmpire | Date: Monday, 15.02.2016, 22:29 | Message # 1546 |
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Group: Users
United States
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| I just noticed something. I was looking at the_nerervarine's link, and I saw that the "LoaderQeueSizeCPU" and "LoaderQeueSizeGPU" are half their values from previous incarnations of SE, in main.cfg at the bottom section. In RC 1 they are 64 an 128 respectively. In previous versions, they are 128 and 256 respectively. As a result, I was seeing incomplete loading of various planets as well as missing Solar System browser thumbnails. While I think folks with higher end machines need not to worry, setting the Qeue sizes back to 128 and 256 seems to have fixed the issue on my low end machine. 
Specs: Dell Inspiron 5547 (Laptop); 8 gigabytes of RAM; Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-4210U CPU @ 1.70GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz; Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit; Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics 4400 (That's all there is :( )
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| Alek | Date: Monday, 15.02.2016, 22:31 | Message # 1547 |
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| Downloaded the new stand-alone and it doesn't have the non-texture-loading problem, so it runs perfectly! Yay, this is awesome, Nice work SpaceEngineer!
Living among the stars, I find my way. I grow in strength through knowledge of the space I occupy, until I become the ruler of my own interstellar empire of sorts. Though The world was made for the day, I was made for the night, and thus, the universe itself is within my destiny.
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| sinsforeal | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 00:01 | Message # 1548 |
 Space Pilot
Group: Users
United States
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| Found a bug with the new sexy pink world and greenworld shaders!
http://i.imgur.com/9KeJFsY.jpg
It has some werid tile formations in the upper atmosphere. And if I go into orbit the atmosphere kind of looks like it is moving even though it is not.
I have a nvidia card which is a gt 740.
"Man once looked up at the stars and wondered, Now all we do is look at our hands and hesitate"
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| Snowfall | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 01:03 | Message # 1549 |
 Space Tourist
Group: Users
Canada
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| SpaceEngineer, Thank you for using my Pluto and Charon textures!
This means a lot to me. = ) <3
Keep up the good work!
sorry for my dyslexia.
never stop imagining beautiful things.
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| Watsisname | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 01:14 | Message # 1550 |
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Group: Global Moderators
United States
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| Quote huishb (  ) It dident help cry Should i just get a better GPU?
The new black hole rendering system is very GPU intensive. Which it would be, for how involved the ray-tracing calculations are. I also get only 2-3fps near them. If it bothers you that much, then a stronger GPU probably is the way to go.
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| Alek | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 01:49 | Message # 1551 |
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| Quote Watsisname ( ) 2-3fps
I'd say I get about 15 ...How's there such a difference?
Living among the stars, I find my way. I grow in strength through knowledge of the space I occupy, until I become the ruler of my own interstellar empire of sorts. Though The world was made for the day, I was made for the night, and thus, the universe itself is within my destiny.
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| Kosh | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 01:54 | Message # 1552 |
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| First of all I’m getting better frame rates with SE 0.974 RC1 compared with the previous patches. I quickly noticed the improved ring structures, especially around Saturn. It’s nice that the plutonian system has almost all of its textures. Note: Not all of the images and data from New Horizons’ spacecraft are back as of today, but will be later this year. 
BUGS
1. After you build your ship, and engage the hyper drive to go to another star SE crashes, but if that particular star has planets and one of the planets is selected SE will not crash. It seems not to crash ether if you use the hyper drive to go to other galaxy s.
2. Not all of the objects listed in the catalog search (F3) function are there. Example type in Vela pulsar. It is listed in the catalog, but say’s object not found.
3. The new music functions works fine until you press the (F12) and click on the list, and pick out an individual song by highlighting the particular song with your mouse, then click it. After you do so it crashes. This function worked on SE 0.973 and the 0.974 patches 1-8.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 02:47 | Message # 1553 |
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Group: Administrators
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| Quote SpaceEngineer ( ) New Horizons have no laser altimeter. Only fake map can be made.
This is not true. Elevation maps can be created from stereo imaging (this is how Vesta and Ceres maps are made). But so little of Pluto was imaged in high resolution stereo that no useful global elevation map will be produced.
All forum users, please read this!
My SE mods and addons
Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2 GHz, 16 GB DDR3 RAM, GTX 970 3584 MB VRAM
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| the_nerervarine | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 02:49 | Message # 1554 |
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Space Pilot
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| Really wonderful performance around accretion disks. I was averaging around 80 fps or so with patch 8 and now it's over 100 fps. Great work Space Engineer
AMD FX-8320 8 core @4.0ghz , AMD R9 290 4GB, 8GB DDR3 @1866mhz, 1TB Hard Drive
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| PlutonianEmpire | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 04:12 | Message # 1555 |
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| Quote SpaceEngineer ( ) New Horizons have no laser altimeter. Only fake map can be made. The same for all known icy bodoes, sadly  We have real elevation maps only for inner planets, Moon and Ceres.
Quote HarbingerDawn ( ) This is not true. Elevation maps can be created from stereo imaging (this is how Vesta and Ceres maps are made). But so little of Pluto was imaged in high resolution stereo that no useful global elevation map will be produced.
Understandable. :)
EDIT: Also, I'm encountering something quite frustrating. The game will regularly override my custom atmosphere parameters. I will set a pressure of 1.2345 for a custom planet in the script file, but the game will completely ignore it and will use 0.00012345 as the atmosphere pressure instead. Is anyone else having this problem? This happens with any of the atmosphere parameters, not just pressure.
Specs: Dell Inspiron 5547 (Laptop); 8 gigabytes of RAM; Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-4210U CPU @ 1.70GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz; Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit; Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics 4400 (That's all there is :( )
Edited by PlutonianEmpire - Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 06:29 |
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| Salvo | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 07:28 | Message # 1556 |
 Star Engineer
Group: Local Moderators
Italy
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| Quote SpaceEngineer ( ) so you will have 3 fps :)
Wow, I didn't know it was so GPU intensive 
On my PC I can barely notice the difference...
Is it possible to overwrite the new shader with the old one eventually?
The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition.
CPU: Intel Core i7 4770 GPU: ASUS Radeon R9 270 RAM: 8 GBs
(still don't know why everyone is doing this...)
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 08:02 | Message # 1557 |
 Author of Space Engine
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| Quote sinsforeal ( ) Found a bug with the new sexy pink world and greenworld shaders! http://i.imgur.com/9KeJFsY.jpg It has some werid tile formations in the upper atmosphere. And if I go into orbit the atmosphere kind of looks like it is moving even though it is not. I have a nvidia card which is a gt 740.
No need to repeat your message! I saw the previous one. This is not atmosphere shader, but eclipse shadow from bunary star. This is very old and well-knows issue.
Quote Watsisname ( ) It dident help cry Should i just get a better GPU?
The new black hole rendering system is very GPU intensive. Which it would be, for how involved the ray-tracing calculations are. I also get only 2-3fps near them. If it bothers you that much, then a stronger GPU probably is the way to go.
You must be ready what future versions of SE will use more and more raymarching instead of classical rasterization rendering. Raymarchins is awesome for transluent volumetrics, and almost every object is space is volumetric - galaxies, nebulae, stars, accretion disks, planetary rings, clouds, aurora, even water. So probably in future SE version only opaque planetarty surface (and ship models) will be rendered in "old way", everything else will be raymarched.
Quote Kosh ( ) BUGS
1. After you build your ship, and engage the hyper drive to go to another star SE crashes, but if that particular star has planets and one of the planets is selected SE will not crash. It seems not to crash ether if you use the hyper drive to go to other galaxy s.
2. Not all of the objects listed in the catalog search (F3) function are there. Example type in Vela pulsar. It is listed in the catalog, but say’s object not found.
3. The new music functions works fine until you press the (F12) and click on the list, and pick out an individual song by highlighting the particular song with your mouse, then click it. After you do so it crashes. This function worked on SE 0.973 and the 0.974 patches 1-8.
Good bug report, thank you!
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| JackDole | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 08:37 | Message # 1558 |
 Star Engineer
Group: Local Moderators
Germany
Messages: 1742
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| Quote JackDole ( ) Do not know if this is already known, but 'RadiusSol' is broken.
I have found that the problem that I have posted here, is not resolved. I can handle this error when I use always 'RadSol'; but if I have edited an object in the editor and then export, 'SpaceEngine' always writes 'RadiusSol'. Which of course leads to an incorrect star diameter.
Quote SpaceEngineer ( ) You must be ready what future versions of SE will use more and more raymarching instead of classical rasterization rendering.
Can then the publication of the final 0974 version be delayed until at least the end of this year? Before that I'll not be able to afford a new computer. 
Don't forget to look here.
Edited by JackDole - Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 08:56 |
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| n0b0dy | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 10:49 | Message # 1559 |
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Pirate
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| Quote Kosh ( ) 1. After you build your ship, and engage the hyper drive to go to another star SE crashes, but if that particular star has planets and one of the planets is selected SE will not crash. It seems not to crash ether if you use the hyper drive to go to other galaxy s.
YEES! So it's not only me!!
Quote SpaceEngineer ( ) Quote Kosh ()
BUGS
1. After you build your ship, and engage the hyper drive to go to another star SE crashes, but if that particular star has planets and one of the planets is selected SE will not crash. It seems not to crash ether if you use the hyper drive to go to other galaxy s.
2. Not all of the objects listed in the catalog search (F3) function are there. Example type in Vela pulsar. It is listed in the catalog, but say’s object not found.
3. The new music functions works fine until you press the (F12) and click on the list, and pick out an individual song by highlighting the particular song with your mouse, then click it. After you do so it crashes. This function worked on SE 0.973 and the 0.974 patches 1-8.
Good bug report, thank you!
What? He hasn't even included a SE.log and I have included two SE.logs together with [b]dxdiags from two different PCs[/b]...
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| Spacepetcompany | Date: Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 19:19 | Message # 1560 |
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Group: Newbies
United States
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| So two quick inquiries. First, I have yet to find any procedural black holes without accretion disks. Even all the solitary black holes I have come upon have accretion disks and I'm not entirely sure this is intentional.
Second thing. I can't seem to find the animated corona of neutron stars and white dwarfs in this update. It might just be that they're too bright to see but I thought I should report this just in case.
EDIT: Disregard. The issue was on my side.
EDIT2: Another minor issue. White dwarfs with accretion disks seem to render inside a polygonal figure when seen through the planetary system view.
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field sown with millet, only one grain will grow.
— Metrodorus of Chios, 4th century BCE.
Edited by Spacepetcompany - Tuesday, 16.02.2016, 20:45 |
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