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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 10:57 | Message # 136 |
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| By the way, is the class name "Planetship" looked good in English?
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 11:05 | Message # 137 |
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| Updates during last month:
Various column width in the Star Browser's table
Control of the rotation of the ship with mouse
Supporting RGBA color specular textures for ships with per-pixel specular power in the alpha channel
Supporting RGBA color emissive textures for ships with per-pixel emissive temperature in the alpha channel
Supporting of modular ships
Updated Ships Manager: ability to build, rename and destroy spacecrafts, sorting tables by any column
Easy installing of spacecrafts addons: just copy files into SE folder, and new ships become available in the Ships Manager's build menu
Added Polish and Swedish localization, updated other localizations
Installer for SpaceEngine distribution with automatic selection of localization
Fixed a crash in F3 menu when entered a name of non existing star in a star cluster
Fixed wrong axial tilt info of Earth and other barycenter-orbiting planets
Fixed wrong obliquity parameter in exporting of the planetary system script
Fixed an absolute magnitude of the Halley's comet
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 13:27 | Message # 138 |
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| Quote (SpaceEngineer) By the way, is the class name "Planetship" looked good in English?
No, not really, it sounds like a planet-sized spaceship. The only English term that I know of for craft like that is "interplanetary spacecraft", no short words like with starship. I can't think of a good name for that class.
Maybe we should invent a new system for classifying ships. Instead of combining range and function into one name, we could have two names like with planet classes. The first name would be the range of the ship (orbital, interplanetary, interstellar), and the second name would be the function of the ship (transport, shuttle, probe). Some classes, like space stations, would not have a range class.
For examples:
Cassini would be "Interplanetary probe"
Space Shuttle would be "Orbital shuttle"
SE motherships could be "Interstellar mothership"
etc.
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| SHW | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 13:47 | Message # 139 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) Some classes, like space stations, would not have a range class.
How to classify "Death star" in this case?
Because it is definitely Interstellar space station.
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| werdnaforever | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 14:00 | Message # 140 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) Maybe we should invent a new system for classifying ships. Instead of combining range and function into one name, we could have two names like with planet classes. The first name would be the range of the ship (orbital, interplanetary, interstellar), and the second name would be the function of the ship (transport, shuttle, probe). Some classes, like space stations, would not have a range class.
I agree with this. For range, you'd have sub-orbital, orbital, interplanetary, interstellar, and intergalactic, and for function, there would be probes, transports, cargo-vessels, motherships, etc.
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 15:58 | Message # 141 |
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| Quote (SHW) How to classify "Death star" in this case?
Because it is definitely Interstellar space station.
Death star is not a station, it is obviously a starship.
The question is how to classify astronaut in a suit 
There are so many classes may be. For all of them we need a strings in the localization files.
Vessel classes:
Civil: probe, pod, lifeboat, harvester, shuttle, transport, cargo-vessel, science ship, mothership
Military: drone, fighter, missile/torpedo/rocket ship, gunship, battleship, cruiser, carrier
Without engines: satellite, station, shipyard, mine
Special: astronaut, booster, stage (1st, 2nd etc), fuel tank, missile, bomb
Range:
atmospheric, sub-orbial, orbital, interplanetary, interstellar (intergalactic is unnecessary because any ship with a hyperdrive can do intergalactic flights).
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| Proteus | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 17:18 | Message # 142 |
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| Quote (SpaceEngineer) Death star is not a station, it is obviously a starship.
"As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!" - Emperor
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 18:13 | Message # 143 |
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| It can's be called STATION, because it have ENGINES and HYPERDRIVE. Emperor was wrong. Death Star as a STATION have no purpose, because it can hold in awe only few planets in a system where it was built.
But this is an offtop here.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 21:26 | Message # 144 |
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| Quote (SpaceEngineer) drone
Drone is not a function, it just describes whether the vehicle has a crew, so this class would be unnecessary.
Quote (SpaceEngineer) Emperor was wrong.
Death Star II was under construction at the time, so that particular Death Star WAS a space station at the moment he said that 
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 22:23 | Message # 145 |
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| Updated Star Browser and new appearance of tables:
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| neutronium76 | Date: Friday, 12.07.2013, 22:41 | Message # 146 |
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| Quote (SpaceEngineer) Updated Star Browser and new appearance of tables
Nice. One minor correction/suggestion: 1st column should better be called ''star system'' or simply ''system''. Because it may be a multiple system. 6th column (counting from the left - i.e 3rd from the right) could be named ''stars'' or ''suns'' as it is now - no big deal
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Saturday, 13.07.2013, 00:04 | Message # 147 |
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| "Star system" may mean galaxy, star cluster or multiple star - so to avoid confusion, I prefer to say "Planetary system".
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Saturday, 13.07.2013, 02:14 | Message # 148 |
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| Quote (SpaceEngineer) "Star system" may mean galaxy, star cluster or multiple star
I have never seen star system used to mean any of those other things, except one time in the 1978 Battlestar Galactica, where star system was sometimes used to mean galaxy.
neutronium76 is correct, it would be appropriate to change it to "system".
Quote (SpaceEngineer) I prefer to say "Planetary system"
"Planetary system" and "star system" are not interchangeable, they mean different things. It is possible to have multiple planetary systems within one star system (by having planets that orbit many different suns and barycenters).
For example, Alpha Centauri is one star system, but the planets systems around Alf Cen B and Alf Cen C (if one exists) would be in separate planetary systems.
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| midtskogen | Date: Saturday, 13.07.2013, 08:49 | Message # 149 |
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| I prefer "system" as well, though it might be a bit odd for lone stars.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Saturday, 13.07.2013, 09:19 | Message # 150 |
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| Quote (midtskogen) it might be a bit odd for lone stars.
It still applies, I think. The term "star system", while technically referring to a system of stars, can also be thought of as the system of objects and interactions governed by the gravitational influence of a star (or stars, in the case of a multi-star system). In the case of single-star systems (e.g. the Sol system), the terms "star system" and "planetary system" will mean nearly the same thing, except that the former would include the system's sun and would also still apply if no planetary system existed.
And before anyone brings it up, I acknowledge again that this is technically not the definition of the term. I simply submit it as a valid and more relevant alternative meaning (and one which I think will probably become dominant in the future as usage of the term evolves away from its technical origins and towards practical usage).
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