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| Antza2 | Date: Wednesday, 10.04.2013, 20:25 | Message # 1006 |
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| Quote (DoctorOfSpace) Everybody loves Kim Jong Un
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| Disasterpiece | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 00:42 | Message # 1007 |
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 04:44 | Message # 1008 |
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| The Navy just demonstrated the firepower of its fully armed and operational laser weapon.
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| Watsisname | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 07:01 | Message # 1009 |
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| Obligatory "holy crap, it's the future!"
Seriously though, it's really impressive that the tracking for the laser weapon is so accurate that it can pinpoint a specific spot on a flying plane from a moving and rolling ship, and maintain that for several seconds like that.
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| midtskogen | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 07:12 | Message # 1010 |
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| Quote (Watsisname) Seriously though, it's really impressive that the tracking for the laser weapon is so accurate that it can pinpoint a specific spot on a flying plane from a moving and rolling ship, and maintain that for several seconds like that.
It's a drone, not a plane, something measured in kg, not tonnes. But, yeah, cool video. If NK can release show-off videos, why not others.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 07:34 | Message # 1011 |
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| Quote (midtskogen) It's a drone, not a plane
A plane without a pilot is still a plane
Quote (midtskogen) something measured in kg, not tonnes
It could be measured in either
Since you brought it up, the RQ-4B Global Hawk - a "drone" - has a wingspan of 40 meters and a mass of 14628 kilograms: nearly 15 tons. The Rutan VariEze - a "plane" - has a mass of 476 kg, less than half a ton.
[EDIT] And before you dismiss me for having cited extreme examples (which I did), let me point out that the MQ-9 Reaper, which is often employed for those infamous drone strikes, has a mass of 4.7 tons and is used frequently by various U.S. and international government agencies, including NASA. Its predecessor, the even more ubiquitous MQ-1 Predator, also has a mass in excess of one ton. In comparison, the Cessna 172 - one of the most common aircraft in the world - also has a mass of slightly more than one ton, approximately the size of the MQ-1 and much smaller than the MQ-9.
You should probably seek a deeper understanding of aircraft design and classification.
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| midtskogen | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 08:21 | Message # 1012 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) You should probably seek a deeper understanding of aircraft design and classification.
I was merely pointing out that the drone in the video appears to be pretty small and somewhat flimsy compared to the typical plane for which maintaining the focus obviously will have less dramatic effects. If you can show that the thing in the video was a multi-tonne robust aircraft, I'll happily retract my clarification. A drone is more specific. And I didn't say that drones can't be in the tonne range (or gram range for that matter). Just that this one appears to be in the kg range (which also is typical).
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 09:03 | Message # 1013 |
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| Quote (midtskogen) I was merely pointing out that the drone in the video appears to be pretty small and somewhat flimsy compared to the typical plane
The Laser Weapon System is not meant to be used against large combat aircraft. It is meant to be used against small drones like the one shown in the video, small boats, and to interfere with optical sensor systems. Its effectiveness against something like an F-16 is irrelevant since that is not the type of target it is designed for.
Quote (midtskogen) A drone is more specific.
No it is not. Drone simply means an unpiloted aircraft. This does not imply a size; the largest drone ever (that I am aware of) had a mass of about 100 tons. Others mass only a few kilograms or less. Piloted aircraft show a similar range of sizes. So specifying something as a "drone" by itself does little to describe the craft, other than it having no crew on board.
And again, stating that it was a "drone, not a plane" is inaccurate. It is both.
I understand that you're pointing out that this was a small aircraft not built for combat, but I don't see the relevance.
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| midtskogen | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 10:00 | Message # 1014 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) This does not imply a size;
The point is that while the weapon can track any plane, it's effective only on smaller, more flimsy aircrafts. Which isn't clear if you use the word "plane". And, on average, drones are lighter than average planes, but since that correctly doesn't necessarily imply the point, I did add the part about kg, not tonnes to clarify.
I think you're a bit grumpy now.
Quote (HarbingerDawn) small aircraft not built for combat
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 10:14 | Message # 1015 |
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| Quote (midtskogen) while the weapon can track any plane, it's effective only on smaller, more flimsy aircrafts.
Yes, which is because that is what it is designed for.
Quote (midtskogen) Which isn't clear if you use the word "plane".
And it still isn't clear if you use the word "drone". My point earlier was that you said it was a "drone, not a plane" which is wrong. It is both a drone and a plane. I have no problem calling it a drone, I was just making sure you knew that it is also a plane.
Quote (midtskogen) I did add the part about kg, not tonnes to clarify.
The reason I said what I said was because it seemed that you were implying that drones were necessarily small, and planes were necessarily not. I pointed out that drones and planes are not mutually exclusive, and that both crewed and uncrewed aircraft can be large or small. Your part about kg and tons did not clarify anything, at least for me. Instead it seemed to reinforce the false dichotomy I thought you had presented.
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 14:52 | Message # 1016 |
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| Quote (Watsisname) Seriously though, it's really impressive that the tracking for the laser weapon is so accurate that it can pinpoint a specific spot on a flying plane from a moving and rolling ship, and maintain that for several seconds like that.
This technology has existed for quite a few years now.
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| Watsisname | Date: Thursday, 11.04.2013, 17:38 | Message # 1017 |
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| Quote (midtskogen) I was merely pointing out that the drone in the video appears to be pretty small and somewhat flimsy compared to the typical plane for which maintaining the focus obviously will have less dramatic effects.
Sure, but this doesn't change what I was saying about the impressiveness of the targeting system. 
Quote This technology has existed for quite a few years now.
Yes, the Americans have demonstrated this, as well.
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Friday, 12.04.2013, 06:21 | Message # 1018 |
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Friday, 12.04.2013, 07:51 | Message # 1019 |
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| Several hours ago we set ANOTHER all time attendance record for the forum with 128 visitors. This now exceeds the all time record from the Russian forum.
Also, happy Cosmonautics Day and Yuri's Night everyone!  (sorry UN, but "International Day of Human Space Flight" is just way too long)
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| Disasterpiece | Date: Friday, 12.04.2013, 19:59 | Message # 1020 |
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| Quote (DoctorOfSpace) A Kim Jong Un a day keeps the bombs away
I watched that at school and got in trouble because I laughed, and kept laughing when the teacher told me to stop because it was still playing.
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