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| Watsisname | Date: Monday, 10.11.2014, 16:43 | Message # 2596 |
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| Not sure if the writers were aware of the big hulking paradox at the heart of that, or if they did it on purpose just to troll people into debating about how it makes no sense.
Added: As far as movie timelines go, I always liked this one: or the easier to read version:
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Monday, 10.11.2014, 18:48 | Message # 2597 |
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| Aerospacefag | Date: Monday, 10.11.2014, 22:16 | Message # 2598 |
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| Quote DoctorOfSpace (  ) Spoilers for interstellar
Edited by Aerospacefag - Monday, 10.11.2014, 22:17 |
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Monday, 10.11.2014, 22:46 | Message # 2599 |
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| Quote Aerospacefag (  ) Using, umm, well, time travel. Why not?
No matter the type of time travel there are always logical paradoxes and this includes closed loop time travel. Any sort of paradox that cannot be resolved leads to the inevitable conclusion that no matter what we ever do, time travel to the past will forever be impossible.
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| midtskogen | Date: Tuesday, 11.11.2014, 05:52 | Message # 2600 |
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| If the universe is deterministic, perhaps simply because it popped into existence with a fixed geometry including loops, wouldn't that solve the apparent paradox in Interstellar?
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| Watsisname | Date: Tuesday, 11.11.2014, 19:49 | Message # 2601 |
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| ~=Caution: This post contains Interstellar Spoilers=~
No, I think this contradicts the explanation that the film itself provides. The closed time-like curve (what allows Cooper to send information [via gravity] to his own past), is created by the existence of the tesseract, but the tesseract is explained as being built by future humans, rather than being an initial condition. And since the ability to produce the tesseract requires that humans produced the portal, which requires the prior existence of the tesseract, this also leads to paradox.
Also, the universe is deterministic, at least in classical mechanics (not quantum mechanically).
Determinism in physics means this: Given information about a system (state variables), and knowledge of dynamic laws governing its evolution, then you can predict its future behavior. Its past behavior, too, if the laws are reversible (they usually are). Visually, imagine the space of states of a system as a collection of labelled boxes. Dynamical laws, then, are represented with arrows connecting them. If the evolution is deterministic, then every box has exactly one arrow in and one arrow out. The arrow that goes in and the arrow that goes out may even be the same arrow (a closed loop), which just means “if at A, go to A” – the system does not change. An example of a non-deterministic system would be if you have two arrows in and one arrow out. Then you know where to go, but not where you came from. Such a system is irreversible, or non-deterministic in the past.
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| spacer | Date: Tuesday, 11.11.2014, 22:34 | Message # 2602 |
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| so many spoilers here! please nooooooo wait few weeks until all of us will see XD
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| Watsisname | Date: Tuesday, 11.11.2014, 23:19 | Message # 2603 |
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| I don't think anything overly important was said here without either a prominent spoiler warning or spoiler tag. Unless you mean in the chatbox...
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| spacer | Date: Wednesday, 12.11.2014, 15:56 | Message # 2604 |
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| Watsisname, spoilers everywhere on the internet! 5 min ago i saw in ign website: "what happened At the end of the movie interstellar?"
lol! everywhere!
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| Watsisname | Date: Wednesday, 12.11.2014, 16:40 | Message # 2605 |
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| Clearly you must avoid the internet until you see the movie.
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Wednesday, 12.11.2014, 17:04 | Message # 2606 |
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| Best to a adopt a no care attitude towards spoilers like myself if you plan to browse the internet after something you look forward to has come out. I haven't even seen the movie and I already know how it ends and that doesn't bother me.
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| midtskogen | Date: Thursday, 13.11.2014, 21:06 | Message # 2607 |
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| Good timing.
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| Joey_Penguin | Date: Friday, 14.11.2014, 01:37 | Message # 2608 |
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| All I know about spoiler tags is that
Careful. The PLATT Collective has spurs.
Edited by Joey_Penguin - Friday, 14.11.2014, 01:55 |
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| Disasterpiece | Date: Friday, 14.11.2014, 21:25 | Message # 2609 |
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| On a completely unrelated (and therefore related to the thread topic) note, I just downloaded the entire pubchem database of sdf files of substances and compounds.
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| Wwadlol | Date: Friday, 14.11.2014, 22:28 | Message # 2610 |
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| A few days ago i accidentally dropped a cup of noodles on my space heater. This morning i turned it on, and now my room smells like burnt noodles...
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