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Troubleshooting SpaceEngine 0.94
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| Dwarden | Date: Wednesday, 06.07.2011, 02:47 | Message # 16 |
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| unfortunately the problem stays same ...
the used texture memory etc all goes down to zero and it gets stuck in this and all details go to low blurred
Ideas are like ocean w/o borders! https://twitter.com/FoltynD
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Wednesday, 06.07.2011, 10:59 | Message # 17 |
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| Try to disable auto memory detection and enter memory size manually: http://en.spaceengine.org/forum/4-58-1 (read paragraph 5)
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| Whiteboy | Date: Thursday, 14.07.2011, 02:18 | Message # 18 |
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| Help pls i just DL this game and i really wanna play it!!!
Code Space Engine Version 0.9.4.0 beta
STARTING
ERROR: Script::Load(): Can't open file "config/main.cfg"
ERROR: Script::Load(): Can't open file "config/universe.cfg"
Opening window
Initializing OpenGL
Vendor: Intel
Renderer: Intel Cantiga
OpenGL version: 2.0.0 - Build 7.15.10.1591
GLSL version: 1.10 - Intel Build 7.15.10.1591
Extensions: GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_ARB_multitexture GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_NV_blend_square GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_ATI_separate_stencil GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_framebuffer_object
Framebuffer objects supported
Half floats not suppoted
Floating-point pixel format not supported
3D textures suppoted
Texture blocks: 8
Max texture size: 2048
Max rectangle texture size: 2048
Max cubemap texture size: 1024
Max 3D texture size: 128
Max anisotropy: 2
Dynamic video memory detection unsupported. Value 512 Mb from config will be used.
Dynamic video memory detection disabled
Checking critical extensions
Critical extensions missing:
GL_ARB_vertex_array_object
ERROR: TTexture::Load(): File not found: "data/textures/common/splash00.*"
INITIALIZING ENGINE
DONE
INITIALIZING USER
ERROR: Script::Load(): Can't open file "config/user.cfg"
DONE
LOADING NEARBY GALAXIES
DONE
INITIALIZING ENGINE
DONE
RUNNING ENGINE
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Saving "config/user.cfg"
ERROR: Script::Load(): Can't open file "config/user.cfg"
DESTROYING UNIVERSE
Destroying planets
Destroying stars
Destroying nebulae
Destroying clusters
Destroying galaxies
DONE
FINISHED
:any suggestions??!!!!????? pls help!
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| Robbie | Date: Thursday, 14.07.2011, 10:27 | Message # 19 |
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| Looks like you are missing the config files.
Might be worth checking to see if SpaceEngine's files have been downloaded properly. Compare the file size from the website with your downloaded zipped files on your PC. if the files are not same size then download it again. Or it could be that the extracted zipped files may have not extracted properly. Try extracting those files again to a new folder. The unzipped engine folder size should be ~400Mb.
Quad Core i7 930 CPU o/c 3.8 GHz - 6GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - ATI HD 5870 1024Mb - Intel SSD X25-M Gen 2 - Win 7 64-bit
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Thursday, 14.07.2011, 14:03 | Message # 20 |
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| Whiteboy, I already see this error earlier. Did you copy SpaceEngine.exe file on the desktop instead of creating shortcut to it? 
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| Atmoscat | Date: Friday, 15.07.2011, 14:56 | Message # 21 |
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Group: Users
Germany
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| Hello SpaceEngineer, hello everybody!
First, let me say THANK YOU for providing such an amazing piece of software for free to all interested! It is simply fantastic what you already achieved with your program. Well done!
I have a question for you. I was very excited when I realized that you included Eric Bruneton's atmospheric rendering logic into your latest version of Space engine. In my opinion, Mr. Bruneton so far created the definitive, most stunning and realistic looking atmosphere rendering I have ever seen! So I am very happy that you SpaceEngineer adapted your engine to use the code Mr. Bruneton.
Now, unfortunately, there seems to be a slight issue with that atmospheric rendering on my system. I should mention, that the exact same issue also appeared when I had run Eric Bruneton's demo (found here: http://www-evasion.imag.fr/Membres/Eric.Bruneton/demo.html )!
Okay, now for some screenshots taken in SpaceEngine to illustrate the problem:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Rhinehornet/scr00043.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Rhinehornet/scr00039.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Rhinehornet/scr00040.jpg
The issue I mean are the lines and circles showing within the atmospheric haze. They show up on the horizon limb, at the top of the atmopshere and in circles, concentrically centered on the main light source directional axis from the camera point of view. The lines also show up on rendered terrain. All these lines are visible whenever an atmosphere is rendered, independent of the camera's position, in- or outside the atmosphere.
My system specs are at the lower end:
Windows XP 32 bit, Intel Core2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16 GHz; 3,25 GB RAM; ATI Radeon HD3850 PCIe 2.0 with 512 MB DDR3 with driver version 11.5
Now one thing worth noting is that Eric Bruneton states the following regarding his software on the webpage (see link above), which says:
Quote This software has only been tested on Windows XP with an NVIDIA GeForce 7900 or an NVIDIA GeForce 8800, and specific NVIDIA driver versions. IT MAY NOT WORK WITH ANY OTHER SYSTEM CONFIGURATION.
Maybe the issue is bound to ATI cards, that they cannot render these atmospheric algorithms corrcetly?... 
Thank you in advance for any feedback. I already considered getting a new graphics card. From Nvidia that is!
Best wishes to all! Greetings from Germany.
PC: Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E8500 @ 3.16GHz, 3.25 GB / 4.00 GB DDR3 RAM, GeForce GTX750Ti 2048 MB VRAM, WinXP Home 32bit / Windows7Pro 64bit
Edited by Atmoscat - Friday, 15.07.2011, 14:56 |
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Friday, 15.07.2011, 21:45 | Message # 22 |
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| Hello Atmoscat,
I saw this bug the first time! No one had reported about this until now. I think this is a system/drivers issue. Try to update video drivers.
However, many people on the Russian GameDev forum reported that Eric Bruneton's demo stopped working a few months ago. And some people had made their own adaptation of Bruneton's code, had had the same issue. I uploaded my edited version of Bruneton's demo to load pre-computed textures from the disk, as SpaceEngine does, and it worked okay! So this is probably a bug in the current new drivers, both NVidia and ATI, that brakes the shaders that pre-compute scattering textures. However, my computers do this fine with the newest drivers.
About your bug. Maybe updating the drivers will help you. Try to run an older version of SpaceEngine (You can find them at the download page). Anyway, upgrading of hardware will help.
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| Atmoscat | Date: Sunday, 17.07.2011, 23:26 | Message # 23 |
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Group: Users
Germany
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| Hello SpaceEgineer!
Thanks for taking the time to look into this. I tested the earlier version of SE (ver. 0.93), though the problem still prevails. The issue with the lines and circles showing in the atmosphere were also visible the exact same way with previous/older graphics driver versions. Also the issue was showing exactly like that in the demo of Eric Bruneton. So, as you mentioned, it looks like the only workaround is getting new and more capable graphics hardware (with 1GB or 1,5GB memory).
I would also be very interested in your edited version of Bruneton's demo, whenever you find the time to upload it.
BTW, somewhere on the forums I had read that a member offered server space for you to provide high volume for downloads for high resolution textures (and bumpmaps) for planet Earth. Have you, by chance, already been able to upload this? The screenshots of Earth you posted here in the forums look even more amazing, with a great level of detail.
Again, thanks for all the hard work, I am enjoying your simulator a lot. Looking forward to play with it on better hardware and see your future program updates!
PC: Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E8500 @ 3.16GHz, 3.25 GB / 4.00 GB DDR3 RAM, GeForce GTX750Ti 2048 MB VRAM, WinXP Home 32bit / Windows7Pro 64bit
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Monday, 18.07.2011, 01:07 | Message # 24 |
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| Here's a link to my updated Bruneton's demo:
http://narod.ru/disk/13882445001/BrunetonAtmoFixed_Neptune2.rar.html
It includes pre-computed textures for Earth's atmosphere (compatible with SE .atm file, it seems).
About uploading hi-res textures. I am now working on some other features, and have no time to do this. Current version has trouble in forming of seams and cracks in landscape. Improving of terrain code may lead to necessity of "recompiling" of textures: Adding or removing a border etc. So it makes no sense to upload these textures now. Better to wait for a new version later.
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| Atmoscat | Date: Tuesday, 19.07.2011, 05:21 | Message # 25 |
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Germany
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| *NEWS - NEWS - NEWS*
SpaceEngineer, I just woke up and had this sudden thought about the reason for the above described graphics problem. I think I've detected the cause of it! It must have to do with the OpenGL version. My graphics card (Sapphire Radeon HD3850 512MB, PCIe) only supports OpenGL version 2.0! I just looked it up and that version is from 2004! 
I am pretty certain this is the cause for all this mess!
Need to get a new card which supports at least 3.0, I think I read it somewhere here on in the manual.
Thank you SpaceEngineer for uploading your version of Bruneton's demo!
I agree that it does not make sense at the moment, to upload the hi-res texture sets. I am looking forward to new versions of SE.
PC: Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E8500 @ 3.16GHz, 3.25 GB / 4.00 GB DDR3 RAM, GeForce GTX750Ti 2048 MB VRAM, WinXP Home 32bit / Windows7Pro 64bit
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Tuesday, 19.07.2011, 11:55 | Message # 26 |
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| I think the issue is not in OpenGL version. If the program does not support rendering of atmosphere, it won't run anyway. By the way, I'm surprised that you can run SpaceEngine with OpenGL 2.0 hardware. I thought the minimum is 3.0, I plan to make checking of GL version at SE start-up which will interrupt the program if GL version is less than 3.0.
Quote (Atmoscat) Need to get a new card which supports at least 3.0
No, buy a videocard which supports at least 4.0 The newest version of GL is 4.1.
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| Dreadnought | Date: Thursday, 21.07.2011, 12:12 | Message # 27 |
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| Hmm.
ive watched some videos with planets having all of those cool surfaces.
but in my case everytime i go to surface it isnt generating anything.
it stays a 2D mess.
no mountains craters. nothing
any ideas? 
Edited by Dreadnought - Thursday, 21.07.2011, 15:55 |
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| Atmoscat | Date: Thursday, 21.07.2011, 23:29 | Message # 28 |
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Group: Users
Germany
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| Okay. Well, I have not yet been able to explicitly determine which OpenGL version is used by my graphics card, though the technical description says 2.0.
Yes, a card that supports 4.1 would be nice. Have to find one with 1GB and preferrably with passive cooling or liquid cooling system.Added (22.07.2011, 02:29)
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Just for the record. Found this in the SE log file:
Quote Initializing OpenGL
Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Renderer: ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series
OpenGL version: 3.3.10750 Compatibility Profile Context
GLSL version: 3.30
So it looks like my graphics card actually uses OpenGL 3.3? If yes, its a bit strange, as in the manufacturer details OpenGL 2.0 is listed. Could it be that the supported OpenGL version can go higher with newer drivers?
PC: Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E8500 @ 3.16GHz, 3.25 GB / 4.00 GB DDR3 RAM, GeForce GTX750Ti 2048 MB VRAM, WinXP Home 32bit / Windows7Pro 64bit
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Friday, 22.07.2011, 01:41 | Message # 29 |
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| Dreadnought
1) Your video card characteristics? Size of VRAM, OpenGL version.
2) Attach the log file.
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| SpaceEngineer | Date: Friday, 22.07.2011, 01:44 | Message # 30 |
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| Maybe When your graphics card was made, THE current GL version was 2.0? And now with new drivers your card supports full GL 3.3, but does not support for example GL 4.0 and 4.1
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