Please post here all of your reports about bugs or crashes in SpaceEngine. Before you post any bugs, please follow these steps:
First of all, make sure you updated your video card drivers. This may solve 99% of all isues.
Read the Fixing common issues section below. It is possible that your problem can be solved there.
Read the List of known issues section below and make sure that your bugs are not on in it. You can use your browser's word finder to help search the list.
If the bug is not on the list then please post it in this thread. Attach to your message a screenshot (if possible) and a log file (it's called the se.log and is located in the SpaceEngine/system/ directory). Only the log file will help us to understand your problem and find a solution!
Fixing videocard-specific issues
If you do not know which videocard do you have, open the system/se.log file in the text editor and read the Vendor information in the beginning:
INITIALIZING OPENGL [MT] Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Then look for a solution for you:
Nvidia: Major lag spikes
To prevent major lags with Nvidia, go into Nvidia control panel, and in SpaceEngine's profile set Threaded optimization to off.
Nvidia: Water missing on terras, clouds are below the surface
This is becasue of Nvidia driver update. Revert back to 365.19.
ATI/AMD: Crash on approaching to the black hole, neutron star or white dwarf, on using ship's hyperdrive, or when enabling the Oculus Rift mode or the Fish Eye mode
Open config/user.cfg and change this parameter value to false, so that it looks like this:
EnableMipmapsWarp false // use mipmapping for warp effects rendering
If crashes on enabling the Oculus Rift mode or the Fish Eye mode still remains, change these two parameters to false as well:
EnableMipmapsGUI false // use mipmapping for GUI FBO EnableMipmapsFrame false // use mipmapping for scene FBO
ATI/AMD: Crash on Startup on Windows 10
Open the system folder in your SpaceEngine directory and delete the file atioglxx.dll.
Intel HD: Glitchy landscape and textures on planets
Open config/user.cfg and change this parameter to true:
- "Error loading surface generator shaders. Press YES to run program with procedural planets disabled. Press NO to exit"
To fix that, download and install latest drivers for your video card. If you still get this message, it could be that you have an incompatible video card (see next paragraph).
But you still can try and run SpaceEngine by disabling checking of critical errors at startup. Open main.cfg and change value of this parameter to 'true':
IgnoreCriticalCheck true // ignore checking of OpenGL version and critical extensions supporting
NOTE: I can give no guaranties that SpaceEngine will be stable and work correctly if you do make this change.
If you have an "Error loading surface generator shaders" error and press Yes, SpaceEngine can run, but it will not be able to render procedural planetary landscapes.
After updating or rollback of the drivers, you must delete the cache folder in the SpaceEngine directory.
2) Weak system
SpaceEngine needs a modern "gaming" graphics card to run. Weak cards like Intel Graphics (many laptops have it) or 10 year old devices like GeForce 5700 will not run SpaceEngine. There is no way but to update your hardware. There are no plans to make a second version of the engine for weaker systems with simplified graphics, CPU texture generation, etc. It would be like coding another engine from scratch. Once again, I would remind everyone that the minimum system requirements can be found on the Home page, but I will mention it here as well:
CPU 2.0 GHz RAM 2 GB Video GeForce 8600, Radeon HD 2600 VRAM 512 MB
I stress the special role played by videocard onboard memory (VRAM). 512 MB is the absolute minimum. The engine uses a large amount of data that must be in video memory (textures, meshes etc). The goo performance will be only with a dedicated video card with 1024+ MB of onboard memory. Almost all modern $100+ devices can run SE smoothly. CPU power is not so important for SE, but having many cores could improve performance on fast interstellar and intergalactic flight. CPU does not significantly affect the landscape generation speed because it is done completely on the video card.
3) System with hybrid graphics (NVidia/ATI + Intel HD)
If you're running SE on a laptop with dual graphics, make sure SE runs on NVidia or ATI chip instead of Intel HD. You may see it in the beginning of the "SpaceEngine/system/se.log" file. If it says: Vendor: Intel Renderer: Intel® HD Graphics 4000
then you should open Nvidia Control Panel or ATI Catalyst and force SpaceEngine.exe run on NVidia/ATI graphics card. If you do not find a SpaceEngine profile there, create a new one.
4) Artifacts on procedural planets
If you get missing landscape blocks, blurry or blinking textures, random spikes sticking out of surface, check out these recommendations here:
a) If you have a laptop with hybrid graphics, read item #3.
b) Make sure that you make a "clean" installation of SE (if it is a full version, not a patch!). If you install a new version overwriting the old one, you may get many bugs and glitches.
5) Frequent crashing while generating planetary surface
If you have frequent crashes on planets, or get an "OUT OF MEMORY" message on screen, or "Unexpected deleting of child node" in the log file, try taking these steps first:
- Close any other programs that can consume the video memory (games, video players, graphics editors, etc.). The video memory is the most important resource for SpaceEngine. It may help to disable the Windows Aero theme too, as it consumes a lot of video memory. - Disable "3D water" in Graphics settings (Ctrl-F4) - Reduce "Landscape LOD" to -2 in Graphics settings (Ctrl+F4) - Set up the amount of video memory in the main.cfg file:
VideoMemorySize 2048 // video card onboard memory (VRAM) in megabytes
The value must not be less than 1024, but not more than the total amount of physical video memory plus amount of RAM. For example, if you have a graphics card with 1024 MB of video memory, and more than 2 GB of RAM, you can increase VideoMemorySize to 2048.
6) Spaceship disappears when far from a star
This is not a bug. The current version does not yet have a completed spaceship rendering system - they cannot be rendered if there are no stars or planets in the renderlist. Just imagine that the ship is in hyperspace, so cannot be seen :)
7) Blurry textures on Solar system planets
This is not a bug. Our Solar system planets and its satellites have no procedural textures, they use real ones with limited level-of-detail. You can download addons with high resolution textures to increase the level of detail of real planets. But don't expect 1 cm level of detail; these addons also have limited size, and thus limited resolution (up to 150 meters per pixel for some bodies).
8) Problems with very high resolution displays
If you're using a very high display resolution and have problems selecting things with the cursor, or your screenshots are being output at a lower resolution than you're using, try the following:
1) Open Windows Control Panel, navigate to Display, and set the DPI scaling to "Smaller - 100% (default)" - it should look like this.
2) If you want to adjust the DPI scaling, click on "Set custom text size (DPI)" in the sidebar and change its value to suit your preference.
9) Problems in Windows 10 + AMD/ATI
Delete the file system/atioglxx.dll
List of known issues
Green items have been fixed for the next release
Not real bugs, but effects caused by limitations in the engine:
- Star mode "points" and "sprites" look the same. This is right! This switch changes the rendering technology, not the visual appearance. - Ships do not render in interstellar space - Star catalog has many errors in star classification, so there are many "giant dwarfs" and "dwarf giants" - Many real binary stars rendered as single, and many single rendered as binary - SE simply have incomplete catalog of binary stars - Comet nucleus star-sprite will shine through planets[example]. - Galaxy/nebula sprites will rotate when seen from certain angles - Auroras, comet tails and rings can be rendered in front of ships/moons sometimes - Lens flares are distorted by gravitational lensing (black holes and ship warp drive effect) - Text editor for Wiki descriptions is not working - it is not implemented yet - Solar system moons don't have extremely accurate orbits (requires implementation of custom orbit models, e.g. VSOP-87) - Sunspot distribution is not always realistic - Ocean tag not yet implemented in planet editor - Rounding errors (e.g. 30° in catalog rounds to 29°59'59.99" displayed on HUD) - Bloom effects from the bottom of the screen are replicated at the top of the screen in anaglyph mode - Many HIP and HD stars do not appear in the search menu
Real bugs:
- Cloud cyclones have cut edges sometimes - Lines or junctures are visible on planetary surface - Changing "modes" between simulation and orbital when piloting ships can cause glitches - Few issues with asynchronous loading (stars don't always generate properly, especially when flying to new galaxies) - Flashing landscape LOD on a planet when Wiki for it is displayed - GUI response issues with some users (interface items glitchy or not respond easily) - Flickering flare color in close binary systems [example] - Auto-exposure does not react when a sun is blocked while diffraction spikes are set to normal or super - "Eclipse bug" on distant planets (weird dark shimmering on outer planet caused by inner planet crossing the sun or two suns eclipsing) - Level horizon command (End key) doesn't work properly on oblate objects - Weird behavior of movement keys in tracking mode (T) and after releasing it - If a galaxy model is selected, the camera is not following any object, and the program is in Edit Mode, closing and restarting the program will cause the WASDRF movement keys to behave incorrectly until the camera is set to follow an object - Problems when releasing Left + Right click - Music player will unpause when SE window is minimized and restored, or when entering and exiting the main menu - Switching to fullscreen doesn't work sometimes - Automatic reference object setting with spacecraft doesn't always choose the best object (for example, when near dwarf moons or debris asteroids close to a planet you are trying to orbit) - 3D water fog sometimes starts above the water surface - Visual atmosphere heights are inconsistently and unrealistically generated - Physical atmosphere properties are inconsistently and unrealistically generated, and are not tied to the visual models - Cyclones are not generated in the southern hemispheres of gas giants - Shimmering bloom splotch when very close to the surface of a planet [example] - Lighting errors in system browser when viewing from outside the system - "Sky lighting shadow" in the subsolar region of atmospheres - Problems with the skybox export interface, and with the planetarium after using it, for some users - Camera will be set to 90° FOV when returning from fisheye or cubemap view sometimes - If spacecraft .sss Length is very different from its .cfg length, there may be rendering glitches - VSync doesn't work after usage of Oculus Rift in the Direct mode, sometimes it doesn't work at startup when Oculus Rift is connected.
OlafusTheGreat, I'm afraid your integrated Intel graphic card is not compatible with SE. It works well enough with recent Nvidia or AMD cards, with at least 2GB of dedicated video RAM. Well, even with some Intel card, someone has Intel 5500 series and it works, only minor differences. The more video RAM the better, though. You could try to update your video drivers, perhaps they better support recent OpenGL extensions.
"Time is illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." Douglas N. Adams My mods Asus x555ub: cpu i5-6200u - ram 4gb - gpu nvidia geforce 940m 2gb vram
OlafusTheGreat, I'm afraid your integrated Intel graphic card is not compatible with SE. It works well enough with recent Nvidia or AMD cards, with at least 2GB of dedicated video RAM. Well, even with some Intel card, someone has Intel 5500 series and it works, only minor differences. The more video RAM the better, though. You could try to update your video drivers, perhaps they better support recent OpenGL extensions.
Well i do have an AMD graphics unit on this Laptop, AMD Radeon HD 7610M, and i tried using the catalyst control panel to fix SE to that graphics unit but it seems like it still runs on the Intel?
d i tried using the catalyst control panel to fix SE to that graphics unit but it seems like it still runs on the Intel?
mmmh yeah. It seems similar issues with catalyst control happened, you have windows 7 right? Maybe someone with your exact laptop model solved it with some catalyst/intel driver combination. I see some modded AMD/intel drivers were released, but Windows 7 support from microsoft is not facilitating those updates.
"Time is illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." Douglas N. Adams My mods Asus x555ub: cpu i5-6200u - ram 4gb - gpu nvidia geforce 940m 2gb vram
Well i do have an AMD graphics unit on this Laptop, AMD Radeon HD 7610M, and i tried using the catalyst control panel to fix SE to that graphics unit but it seems like it still runs on the Intel?
OlafusTheGreat, Your driver is totally outdated, as can be seen on the date. It looks as if it had never been updated. With the Windows Device Manager drivers can not be updated. If at all, only drivers are found, which provides Microsoft itself. These include not actual graphics card drivers usually. The official way to update drivers, would be the update tool by the computer manufacturer, which would have to be on your computer. But even so it is I've never been able to update anything.
The best way is via the website of the graphics card manufacturer. These pages you can reach via the graphics settings. For Intel, this looks to me like this:
If you have a 'AMD Radeon HD 7610M' graphics card, you'll find here the correct driver. About the link you come to this page:
This is the same driver that I have, my card is a 'AMD Radeon HD7670M'.
In any case, both graphics card drivers need to be updated. I think the best method is first the 'Intel' and then the 'AMD' driver.
But, the very best would be if you know someone who is familiar with computers, and could help you update your driver.
Especially because I do not want to be to blame if anything goes wrong. Everything you do, you do at your own risk! I do not think that things can go wrong, but you never know!
Well, the thing is, i do know how to update drivers and stuff, i just thought that the card was so outdated, there would be no more recent drivers available.
Now the embarassing part, im programmer, well i'm learning it at least. Haha. Yea.. *blushes*
I'll update them tomorrow , just got home and am pretty tired, thanks for pointing this out to me
Added (28.05.2016, 18:59) --------------------------------------------- quick update, i already updated. He's compiling the shaders now, looking good for now (:
Added (28.05.2016, 19:16) --------------------------------------------- And next update, works (: is there a way to get a third person view? would be highly interesting (:
is there a way to get a third person view? would be highly interesting
At the moment there's only a camera view mode. You could use some star ship, though, to achieve an external view. There's also a cockpit view in some of them.
"Time is illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." Douglas N. Adams My mods Asus x555ub: cpu i5-6200u - ram 4gb - gpu nvidia geforce 940m 2gb vram
Hello, I am having a recent issue with Space Engine.
It seems that some particular worlds are not being rendered/produced properly. For example:
This is supposed to be a TERRA world with life, green islands, and water all around. Instead, I get this bland flat desert with some small fiery volcanoes on the top. This applies to water worlds, deserts, titan, and any other type of terra world, regardless of environment.
Here's another terra, which just appears completely flat and blind. Do note that the atmosphere and clouds have been disabled to show this more:
I did not change anything at all. One day it was working fine, the next, I launched SE, and this suddenly happened. The only thing I can think of is that I updated my drivers yesterday, and then this happened. I have not tried to revert back to old drivers yet, but I did reinstall them, and the issue persists. I checked all other games incase my GPU was acting funny, but everything else is working perfect (GTX 980, 8GB OF RAM, i7 3770k). Selenas, ice worlds, blackholes, and galaxies render fine.
Is this a driver issue, or Space Engine related? Thank you for any assistance, as this is really annoying, and it takes the beauty out of almost 90% of all worlds I find. Please note that I tried different versions of Space Engine, and the issue still persisted. This includes Space Engine 974 and 973
Others have reported similar issues after last Nvidia drivers update, so it could be indeed related. Right now I'm using 365.10, and I was going to update but I renounced precisely due to those reports. I'd say you could try going back one version or two, please keep us posted.
"Time is illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." Douglas N. Adams My mods Asus x555ub: cpu i5-6200u - ram 4gb - gpu nvidia geforce 940m 2gb vram
Hello, I am having a recent issue with Space Engine.
It seems that some particular worlds are not being rendered/produced properly. For example:
EXACTLY my problem with SE lately!!! Thank you to pointing this out. Here's my configuration Processor: Core i7-6700 MOBO: ASUS Z170-K RAM: 8GB AVEXIR 2400 GPU: ASUS GTX960 BLACK EDITION OC2GB, driver at 368.22 Windows 10 64Bit Space Engine 0.9.7.4 + rodrigo mod (it doesnt matter, I tried to run 0.9.7.2 and 0.9.7.3 vanilla without any mod, reinstalling 0.9.7.4, and same flat-planets problem occured)
and here is my SE.log and other few 'abnormalities' with my SE installation guess I'm gonna fallback my driver soon
See, no mountains, oceans, nor greenery like a temperate terra with multicellular life planet would have.
Ah, I don't want to say I'm glad, but a little relieved that I'm not the only one with this issue. At least I know it's not my computer now at the very least. I'll see if tonight I can revert to an older driver version, and see if it fixes the issue, which I'm sure it will. Thanks for letting me know guys!
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