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HarbingerDawnDate: Thursday, 18.07.2013, 06:32 | Message # 1471
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So I'm curious, what makes people uncomfortable with the endless expanse of space?

I don't think there's a single answer to that question. For me, I have no problem with the size of the universe - until I think about it too much detail. But when I really think hard on it, really visualize to the best of my ability the scale of things, I get very uncomfortable thinking about things larger than the scale of our galaxy. It's just beyond what my mind can comfortably assimilate, it's too vast to properly internalize without the sheer immensity of emptiness draining away my emotional foundations. The universe is composed chiefly of nothing, and the larger the scale of your visual simulation is, the more that nothing adds up, until you reach a point where you're looking at things from an intergalactic perspective and you realize that there is practically nothing at all there, except a few microscopic motes of fluff that we call galaxies, and that 99.99999999999999999999999999% is just empty void. It eats away at your soul, so to speak. I find no benefit in visualizing things on such a vast scale anyway, so I keep my attention towards things more local, places that I can feel more connected to. I think of this galaxy as home, and home is the one place where we all feel most comfortable smile





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DisasterpieceDate: Thursday, 18.07.2013, 06:46 | Message # 1472
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I see that point, so I guess it is just me who find a vacuum one of the most beautiful things in the universe. Objects have their beauty in symmetry or lack thereof but a vacuum has its beauty in how perfect it is. I'm going to stop talking about how I find everything not man-made to be beautiful because it is way too late for me to be up.




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midtskogenDate: Thursday, 18.07.2013, 14:13 | Message # 1473
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Posted from Norway's second highest peak. Zero visibility of course...




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SalvoDate: Thursday, 18.07.2013, 21:17 | Message # 1474
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English speackers, i need your help biggrin






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DisasterpieceDate: Thursday, 18.07.2013, 21:32 | Message # 1475
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Salvo, open the spoiler.

Someone else may want to take a look at my corrections. Even the greatest grammar nazi can make mistakes.





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Edited by Disasterpiece - Thursday, 18.07.2013, 21:33
 
SalvoDate: Thursday, 18.07.2013, 21:41 | Message # 1476
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Thanks Disasterpiece wink
I just read previous messages, i feel more or less like you, but i don't feel to be trapped on Earth, i feel like a disabled person who can't go outside from his home and walk freely into the outside world, i know what there is out there, but i can't reach it, not because is physically impossible, but because it requires an ability that we don't have yet...

Anyway, i don't feel too bad here, i have a bed, breathable air, water, food, friends, pus... emh anything i want, things that are much harder to find out there biggrin





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Edited by Salvo - Thursday, 18.07.2013, 21:57
 
werdnaforeverDate: Friday, 19.07.2013, 00:54 | Message # 1477
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Did you stay after the credits? The bonus scene was pretty great

No... unfortunately. I heard about that scene- at least I know what happened to him know now. EDIT: What an awful typo I made there

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I have heard a couple people on the forum say the size of the universe makes them uncomfortable (too lazy to link examples). I would like to hear their reasoning. Mainly because whenever I think about the size of the universe I feel tremendously trapped on Earth. It's pretty and I've lived here my entire life, but it is too small now. It is sad to me that I'll likely never even see LEO, let alone the sun from another star, or the galaxy from outside or another galaxy. There are sextillions of stars and worlds, a number so large I am really just spewing a meaningless word. They each have a story, maybe even life to tell about. While I know I could never see every single one, or even a single one, I wish I could.

So I'm curious, what makes people uncomfortable with the endless expanse of space?

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I don't think there's a single answer to that question. For me, I have no problem with the size of the universe - until I think about it too much detail. But when I really think hard on it, really visualize to the best of my ability the scale of things, I get very uncomfortable thinking about things larger than the scale of our galaxy. It's just beyond what my mind can comfortably assimilate, it's too vast to properly internalize without the sheer immensity of emptiness draining away my emotional foundations. The universe is composed chiefly of nothing, and the larger the scale of your visual simulation is, the more that nothing adds up, until you reach a point where you're looking at things from an intergalactic perspective and you realize that there is practically nothing at all there, except a few microscopic motes of fluff that we call galaxies, and that 99.99999999999999999999999999% is just empty void. It eats away at your soul, so to speak. I find no benefit in visualizing things on such a vast scale anyway, so I keep my attention towards things more local, places that I can feel more connected to. I think of this galaxy as home, and home is the one place where we all feel most comfortable smile


I actually like to think about the vastness of the universe. When I see all the problems we're having in our civilization, and the problems I face in my own life, sometimes I think about the billions of lightyears of space out there and realize the triviality of everything here. Any claims of importance are immediately invalidated against this, when you think about it. So then I think to myself "so here I am in this gigantic, indifferent cosmos, and I have at most nine decades left. I may as well just enjoy this little life while it lasts."

We're still at the start of a new century full of technological progress. As overly optimistic as it sounds, I can't discount the possibility that I might actually be able to travel to another star, or another galaxy, if we end up in some kind of mature, advanced civilization (provided those problems are actually solved sometime soon). I'm not saying I think it will happen, just that I can't say it won't. It's probably more likely that we will end up as a resource depleted anti-intellectualized civilization in total decline. Either way, it's no big deal... nothing is!

Perhaps that last sentence has some problems, but... whatever
smile


Edited by werdnaforever - Friday, 19.07.2013, 00:56
 
WatsisnameDate: Friday, 19.07.2013, 06:38 | Message # 1478
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Finished my road trip (first half of it, anyway)! smile Ended up driving through 13 states including starting and ending ones.

I think my favorite state to drive through was Washington for the richness and variety of scenery, but my most recommended place altogether has to be the Badlands in South Dakota. It's an absolutely crazy landscape that doesn't look like it belongs on this planet. Actually, it reminds me very much of something right out of Space Engine! I may post a few photos later.

So far no Kaiju, but am keeping alert! :U





 
SalvoDate: Friday, 19.07.2013, 09:43 | Message # 1479
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road trip (first half of it, anyway)! smile Ended up driving through 13 states including starting and ending ones.


Awesome, I always desired to do something like that *_*
(maybe on latin america)





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DisasterpieceDate: Saturday, 20.07.2013, 07:17 | Message # 1480
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Either way, it's no big deal... nothing is!

Werdna's moral voice-"You need to work harder, you can change the world."

Werdna's Voice-"It doesn't even matter what anyone does. We have basically zero effect on anything and then we die."

Checkmate, Moral Voice.





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midtskogenDate: Saturday, 20.07.2013, 22:40 | Message # 1481
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Posted from Norway's second highest peak. Zero visibility of course...

Mobile coverage is somewhat scattered in the heart of Norway's mountains. I had been offline for four days. In the old days someone had to do the 35 km walk each way to carry the mail to and from the place we stayed. Today we have to get up to a mountain top to fetch e-mail.

It was windy on the way up and down. And stinging hail. Much calmer at the summit, but white-out.


The next day, the day of departure, was a beautiful cloudless day and we could actually see the mountain. From the parking lot while we packed the car:


This is getting annoyingly familiar. Zero visibility when I was on Norway's highest peak a few years ago. And before that I've had a couple of attempts to get to both peaks but turned because of snow and white-out. I wonder how many times I have to try before I finally will get a view... These ascends are easy walks (if the weather is ok).

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Edited by midtskogen - Saturday, 20.07.2013, 22:49
 
Billy_MayesDate: Monday, 22.07.2013, 10:32 | Message # 1482
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I found this really cool website with all kinds of random generators.

For example, here's a Star Wars system generator. http://donjon.bin.sh/scifi/swsg/





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Edited by Billy_Mayes - Monday, 22.07.2013, 10:33
 
DisasterpieceDate: Friday, 26.07.2013, 19:09 | Message # 1483
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For example, here's a Star Wars system generator

That website is a lot of fun.

On a completely unrelated note, my summer is getting pathetic. I just got up a 2 PM. I need to find something to do.





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HarbingerDawnDate: Friday, 26.07.2013, 19:13 | Message # 1484
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I need to find something to do.

Go learn C++ and help Vladimir code SE tongue





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WatsisnameDate: Saturday, 27.07.2013, 06:17 | Message # 1485
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I saw Lady Washington out in Bellingham Bay, WA yesterday. Some might remember it as the HMS Interceptor in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.



Real pretty ship! happy





 
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