Please post here all of your reports about bugs or crashes in SpaceEngine. Before you post any bugs, please follow these steps:
First of all, make sure you updated your video card drivers. This may solve 99% of all issues.
Read the Fixing common issues section below. It is possible that your problem can be solved there.
Read the List of known issues section below and make sure that your bugs are not on in it. You can use your browser's word finder to help search the list.
If the bug is not on the list then please post it in this thread. Attach to your message a screenshot (if possible) and a log file (it's called the se.log and is located in the SpaceEngine/system/ directory). Only the log file will help us to understand your problem and find a solution!
Fixing graphics card-specific issues
If you do not know which graphics card (chip) do you have, open the system/se.log file in the text editor and read the Vendor information in the beginning:
INITIALIZING OPENGL [MT] Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Then look for a solution for you:
Nvidia: Major lag spikes
To prevent major lags with Nvidia, go into Nvidia control panel, and in SpaceEngine's profile set Threaded optimization to off.
Intel HD: Glitchy landscape and textures on planets
Open config/main-user.cfg and change this parameter to true:
Note that this is an experimental feuture and may cause glitches; collision detection also works incorrectly in this mode. Also, read Fixing common issues #3.
Intel HD: Red clouds on Earth
Install the latest driver for Intel HD.
Intel HD: Black screen
Disable comet tails. Go to the main menu, then Settings -> View, and uncheck "comet tails". If you even don't see the main menu, close SE, delete the file config/main-user.cfg, and try again.
Fixing common issues
1) Obsolete or incompatible drivers
These are the most frequent errors found in SE. You will get a popup window with one of these following messages:
- "You have old OpenGL version (2.1.1). Update your graphics card driver or install compatible hardware"
- "You have old GLSL version (1.2). Update your graphics card driver or install compatible hardware"
- "Error loading surface generator shaders. Press YES to run program with procedural planets disabled. Press NO to exit"
To fix that, download and install latest drivers for your video card. If you still get this message, it could be that you have an incompatible video card (see next paragraph).
But you still can try and run SpaceEngine by disabling checking of critical errors at startup. Open main-user.cfg and change value of this parameter to 'true':
IgnoreCriticalCheck true // ignore checking of OpenGL version and critical extensions supporting
NOTE: I can give no guaranties that SpaceEngine will be stable and work correctly if you do make this change.
If you have an "Error loading surface generator shaders" error and press Yes, SpaceEngine can run, but it will not be able to render procedural planetary landscapes.
After updating or rollback of the drivers, you must delete the cache folder in the SpaceEngine directory.
2) Weak system
SpaceEngine needs a modern "gaming" graphics card to run. Weak cards like Intel Graphics (many laptops have it) or 10 year old devices like GeForce 5700 will not run SpaceEngine. There is no way but to update your hardware. There are no plans to make a second version of the engine for weaker systems with simplified graphics, CPU texture generation, etc. It would be like coding another engine from scratch. Once again, I would remind everyone that the minimum system requirements can be found on the Home page, but I will mention it here as well:
CPU - 2.0 GHz RAM - 2 GB Video - GeForce or Radeon with at least 1 GB of dedicated video memory
I stress the special role played by graphics card's onboard memory (VRAM), and 1 GB is the absolute minimum. The engine uses a large amount of data that must be in video memory (textures, meshes etc). The good performance will be only with a dedicated video card with 1024+ MB of onboard memory. Almost all modern $100+ devices can run SE smoothly. CPU power is not so important for SE, but having many cores could improve performance on fast interstellar and intergalactic flights. CPU does not significantly affect the landscape generation speed because it is done completely on the graphics chip.
3) System with hybrid graphics (NVidia/ATI + Intel HD)
If you're running SE on a laptop with dual graphics, make sure SE runs on NVidia or ATI chip instead of Intel HD. You may see it in the beginning of the SpaceEngine/system/se.log file. If it says: Vendor: Intel Renderer: Intel® HD Graphics 4000
then you should open Nvidia Control Panel or ATI Catalyst and force SpaceEngine.exe run on NVidia/ATI chip. If you can't find a SpaceEngine profile there, create a new one.
4) Artifacts on procedural planets
If you get missing landscape blocks, blurry or blinking textures, random spikes sticking out of surface, check out these recommendations here:
a) If you have a laptop with hybrid graphics, read item #3.
b) Make sure that you make a "clean" installation of SE (if it is a full version, not a patch!). If you install a new version overwriting the old one, you may get many bugs and glitches.
c) Just restart SE. It helps in 99% of cases.
5) Frequent crashing while generating planetary surface
If you have frequent crashes on planets, or get an "OUT OF MEMORY" message on screen, or "Unexpected deleting of child node" in the log file, try taking these steps first:
- Close any other programs that can consume the video memory (games, video players, graphics editors, etc.). The video memory is the most important resource for SpaceEngine. It may help to disable the Windows Aero theme too, as it consumes a lot of video memory. - Reduce "Landscape LOD" to -2 in Graphics settings (Ctrl+F4) - Set up the amount of video memory in the config/main-user.cfg file:
VideoMemorySize 2048 // graphics card onboard memory (VRAM) in megabytes
The value must not be less than 1024, but not more than the total amount of physical video memory plus amount of RAM. For example, if you have a graphics card with 1024 MB of video memory, and more than 2 GB of RAM, you can increase VideoMemorySize to 2048.
6) Blurry textures on Solar system planets
This is not a bug. Our Solar system planets and its satellites have no procedural textures, they use real ones with limited level-of-detail. You can download addons with high resolution textures to increase the level of detail of real planets. But don't expect 1 cm level of detail; these addons also have limited size, and thus limited resolution (up to 150 meters per pixel for some bodies).
7) Problems with very high resolution displays
If you're using a very high display resolution and have problems selecting things with the cursor, or your screenshots are being output at a lower resolution than you're using, try the following:
a) Open Windows Control Panel, navigate to Display, and set the DPI scaling to "Smaller - 100% (default)" - it should look like this.
b) If you want to adjust the DPI scaling, click on "Set custom text size (DPI)" in the sidebar and change its value to suit your preference.
List of known issues
Green items have been fixed for the next release
Not real bugs, but effects caused by limitations in the engine:
- Star mode "points" and "sprites" look the same. This is right! This switch changes the rendering technology, not the visual appearance - Star catalog has many errors in star classification, so there are many "giant dwarfs" and "dwarf giants" - Many real binary stars rendered as single, and many single rendered as binary - SE simply have incomplete catalog of binary stars - Galaxy/nebula sprites will rotate when seen from certain angles - Lens flares are distorted by gravitational lensing (black holes and ship warp drive effect) - Solar system moons don't have extremely accurate orbits (requires implementation of custom orbit models, e.g. VSOP-87) - Solar eclipses on Earth, Moon, Jupiter and other real planets are inaccurate (the same as above) - Sunspot distribution is not always realistic - Ocean tag not yet implemented in planet editor - Rounding errors (e.g. 30° in catalog rounds to 29°59'59.99" displayed on HUD) - Many HIP and HD stars do not appear in the search menu, as well as procedural objects (RS xxxx) - Camera sometimes falling through the surface - Collisions detection between ships is not implemented yet; and between ship and planet is inaccurate
Real bugs:
- Lines or junctures are visible on planetary surface of real planets - GUI response issues with some users (interface items glitchy or not respond easily) - Flickering flare color in close binary systems [example] - Auto-exposure does not react when a sun is blocked while diffraction spikes are set to normal or super - Level horizon command (End key) doesn't work properly on oblate objects - Weird behavior of movement keys in tracking mode (T) and after releasing it - If a galaxy model is selected, the camera is not following any object, and the program is in Edit Mode, closing and restarting the program will cause the WASDRF movement keys to behave incorrectly until the camera is set to follow an object - Problems when releasing Left + Right click - Music player will unpause when SE window is minimized and restored, or when entering and exiting the main menu - Switching to fullscreen doesn't work sometimes - 3D water fog sometimes starts above or below the water surface - Visual atmosphere heights are inconsistently and unrealistically generated - Physical atmosphere properties are inconsistently and unrealistically generated, and are not tied to the visual models - Shimmering bloom splotch when very close to the surface of a planet [example] - Lighting errors in system browser when viewing from outside the system - "Sky lighting shadow" in the subsolar region of atmospheres - Problems with the skybox export interface, and with the planetarium after using it, for some users - Camera will be set to 90° FOV when returning from fisheye or cubemap view sometimes - If spacecraft .sss Length is very different from its .cfg length, there may be rendering glitches - VSync doesn't work after usage of Oculus Rift in the Direct mode, sometimes it doesn't work at startup when Oculus Rift is connected.
I'm looking at a sky with a lot of stars. Then I click randomly on the stars to select them, at ~1-2 click/s. Nearly always, on the 30th click, the game crashes. Every now and then it can take longer before the crash.
Ships in the modular format are not showing up in the ship builder. I have unziped addon ships and textures and placed the ship folders in the data/models/spacecrafts/addons/ and the texture folders in data/textures/addons folders. I have also tried moving them me up to the same level as addons and the spacecrafts and textures folders.
I have also tried moving them to the addon folder at the root level of se, but nothing seems to work.
Actually, there are almost no planets with life in the Universe (probably) :) I know what SE code for atmospheric composition should be completely changed. It is just first iteration, so please forgive it these inaccuracies.
What do you mean by the first sentence? I've seen plenty of worlds with life in the SE universe. On the SE code being in its first iteration, I sure hope that gets fixed in the next version. Because it's really ruining my gaming experience...
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What do you mean by the first sentence? I've seen plenty of worlds with life in the SE universe.
He means that we know so far only one planet with life in the Universe, the real one, and it's called Earth Personally I think we should expect several iterations before SE can reach a plausible balance on things like that, given the goal of scientific rigor.
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This is an issue to do with your ram or/and page file but not with space engine. So try the link below i've used this little guide to solve that issue a couple of times (not always the solution though but try it anyway)
Those methods didn't work, unfortunately. The thing is, it's not my RAM. This issue only persists while using Space Engine, making me think it's the software.
Well i also have an slight problem.Many known catalog stars seem too bright.They all are 300 solar masses and each one is 1 billion solar luminosities.Their absolute magnitude from earth is -17.67.I dont think this is supposed to be there. Also why cant i post images?
Those methods didn't work, unfortunately. The thing is, it's not my RAM. This issue only persists while using Space Engine, making me think it's the software.
Sorry Flandre, hoped that would have solved the prob.
O.k second idea then, the game does use a lot of graphics mem so I don't suppose you have a spare g/card? or an on-board graphics that you can temporarily test instead of the 980 just to make sure it's not a graphics card (or driver) issue?
(TBH im not sure if a non-page area fault can be anything to do with g/card someone will have to confirm that, but worth trying anyway)
And what's the issue? If the problem it's the "Scorched ice world":
It's classified by SE as an Ice world because of their composition and distance from the star, but it's scorched because of the effects of the tidal heating of this tidal locked binary system. Maybe it's a bit much heated, but algorithms will undoubtedly cause some oddities.
If the problem lies somewhere else, I'm afraid I failed to see it.
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In free mode camera keeps turning to last object I went to / tracked (well it's not looking at the object exactly, but rather view is always perpendicular to the plane of that object). Tried to untrack, tried uninstalling two times - no resolve.
Please, if anyone can help me. I really wish to use Space Engine, but I can't use it for more than 5 minutes without my PC freezing like a blue screen. (Sound glitches, but continues). Every time I use Space Engine for more than 5 minutes, my computer will completely freeze up, but it will still play sound
Try to disable "threaded optimization" in Space Engine profile in the NVidia control panel.
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1. Go to mercury and angle the camera so Mercury completely covers the Sun. 2. Then bring up the solar system viewer and select Jupiter for example... 3. Mercury disappears! (Turning on Markers or orbits brings the planet back or change angle of camera?) 4. Mercury (And other planets) disappear when: A) It obscuring the sun AND b) when another different planet is selected
Hm, indeed. Interesting bug :)
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Ships in the modular format are not showing up in the ship builder. I have unziped addon ships and textures and placed the ship folders in the data/models/spacecrafts/addons/ and the texture folders in data/textures/addons folders.
This is old method. In 0.98, you don't need to unzip anything, just drop the pak file into addons folder. Author of that addon must update it to be compatible with 0.98.
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What do you mean by the first sentence? I've seen plenty of worlds with life in the SE universe. On the SE code being in its first iteration, I sure hope that gets fixed in the next version. Because it's really ruining my gaming experience...
I mean what in REAL Universe life must be very rare. Don't expect extremely accurate modelling of atmospheric chemistry any time soon. As I said, it's first iteration of the atmospheric code (not all SE code), and there are a plenty of other things which are more important and must be updated. For example, terrain render and nebulae are still in the 1st iteration, despite on I working on SE 10 years now. Atmosphere and galaxies render are at 2nd iteration. A lot of work!
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In free mode camera keeps turning to last object I went to / tracked (well it's not looking at the object exactly, but rather view is always perpendicular to the plane of that object). Tried to untrack, tried uninstalling two times - no resolve.
Is "track" button on the lower left toolbar active? Id reinstall doesn't help, it must be something other. Maybe "T" key stuck?
Is "track" button on the lower left toolbar active? Id reinstall doesn't help, it must be something other. Maybe "T" key stuck?
Track button is not active. T button is not stuck. I had nearly the same issue on another system - view angle always had inertia, didn't matter that I was in free mode. There was no way to fix that or reset settings, so I just quit using space engine back then. It looks like a bug because mode doesn't actually tracks anything - it just rotates the camera not to the object itself, but sets it perpendicular to some weird place, which was connected with the object at the time I selected it. This started when I traveled to object after a search.