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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Sunday, 06.10.2013, 01:29 | Message # 91 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) in a fictional universe I created a long time ago everything was made with nano fabricators and a major source of material for them were mountains, so many mountainous regions in the world were partially flattened. Also, the material was not just converted into material goods, but also into isotopes of hydrogen, etc. for use in fusion reactors, which were the primary source of energy generation.
To some degree I could see something like that actually being plausible. Not to the extent of flattening anything like Everest or the Alps, but clearing something like foothills in favor of fields and then feeding the material into industrial sized fabricators. The only thing I wonder is where one would store all this raw material.
I remember reading about an idea that dealt with technology after nanotech. The simplest way of putting it was unbinding and rebinding the constituent parts of atoms to form any element at any time on demand.
Quote (HarbingerDawn) Or rather, I wish I could sleep for a couple of months, then be awake for a week, then sleep for a couple more months, and so on. I wouldn't want to miss out on all the exciting things that happened in the interim
That would be pretty great.
I find it kind of interesting that even the visions of Star Trek in the 24th century were shortsighted and most of the technology is already possible, or is in the process of becoming possible, and is being done better than what was shown in fiction.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Sunday, 06.10.2013, 02:00 | Message # 92 |
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| Quote (DoctorOfSpace) The only thing I wonder is where one would store all this raw material.
In my universe things were generally made in large factories rather than by individuals. Raw material was stored on-site at each manufacturing complex.
Quote (DoctorOfSpace) Not to the extent of flattening anything like Everest or the Alps
Nothing like that, more like rounding the tops of more modest mountains. Imagine a land which currently has a lot of modest mountains/other rough terrain. Now imagine it more rounded and homogenized. That was what I had imagined.
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Monday, 07.10.2013, 04:19 | Message # 93 |
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| Quote (HarbingerDawn) In my universe things were generally made in large factories rather than by individuals. Raw material was stored on-site at each manufacturing complex.
That reminds me of an idea I had about nanofabricators. Society could design a construct similar to the electric grid, but instead of electricity it could transmit matter on demand. You would have a smaller desktop item that would be streamlined because it wouldn't have all the required parts on site, only the building bits would be there, energy would be provided externally, and matter would be fed into the system externally. I can see quite a few problems with this idea though, might require other forms of quite advanced technology, maybe even transporter technology.
Or one could have a hybrid system, sorta like people who run solar today, be linked with the grid but also have a local storage that can feed back into the grid.
Quote (HarbingerDawn) Nothing like that, more like rounding the tops of more modest mountains. Imagine a land which currently has a lot of modest mountains/other rough terrain. Now imagine it more rounded and homogenized. That was what I had imagined.
That seems even more plausible actually.
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| midtskogen | Date: Monday, 07.10.2013, 08:46 | Message # 94 |
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| Quote (DoctorOfSpace) Society could design a construct similar to the electric grid, but instead of electricity it could transmit matter on demand.
Since energy and matter are interchangeable, you could use the electric grid as it is (or likely upgraded to meet the energy demands) and simply convert the energy you pull from it to matter at your end. You just need to invent a desktop apparatus that converts energy to matter. To produce one 1 kg of mass just 2.5 PWh will be added to your electricity bill (if I got the decimal position right). On a 230V grid you should replace your 16A fuse with a regular 16 TA fuse in order to produce 1 kg safely in one hour.
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Monday, 07.10.2013, 08:55 | Message # 95 |
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| Quote (midtskogen) To produce one 1 kg of mass just 2.5 PWh will be added to your electricity bill
I think if we got to such a point in technology we wouldn't have to worry about electric bills, especially with such vast amounts of energy being used.
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| HarbingerDawn | Date: Monday, 07.10.2013, 12:05 | Message # 96 |
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| Quote (DoctorOfSpace) I think if we got to such a point in technology we wouldn't have to worry about electric bills, especially with such vast amounts of energy being used.
I agree. Economics as we think of them would be meaningless in a future where anyone can make anything they want or need, and copious amounts of energy can be produced with little effort.
But anyway having matter sent to your home shouldn't even be necessary since we're surrounded by it anyway (unless you live in a densely populated area, which there would be no reason to do in a future where everyone has such high technology). You can use what's outside to get you started, and then just convert any waste that you produce into new things that you need.
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| werdnaforever | Date: Tuesday, 08.10.2013, 05:36 | Message # 97 |
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| I think at least once our civilization (or if we ever) develops a system where everyone on Earth is provided with the necessary resources to live comfortably then we should start colonizing space in mega-structures, like stanford tori and other ring-shaped structures. It could even start earlier since your primary source of resources for such projects are in outer space anyway... the Moon and asteroids (then there are the opportunities afforded by asteroid mining).
They were very optimistic about the idea in the 70s- I don't think its fair for naysayers to deny the possibility just because it didn't end up happening.
I think that at the very least there should be a joint venture between/among aerospace companies to create a complete, functional plan for the construction of a Stanford Torus. Even if it's not built (or not immediately) full plans should be produced as a proof of concept.
Imagine how much we could improve the whole idea with the latest advances in technology. The ability to produce goods on demand would be invaluable in such an isolated area. Growing food would be easier with advances in biology. We could keep colonies cleaner and prevent the spread of disease easily. Communication within the colony would be effortless. All the dirty work would be automated.
If we could build just one colony then anything's possible, because after it's construction we would have a new kind of gigantic infrastructure which we can then expand upon in ways we never thought possible.
I will also say I'm absolutely biased towards this idea (not entirely surprising) and find it more interesting than nanotechnology or the exponential increase in computing power/intelligence. The ability to construct a mega-structure (or even something not much larger than a mile) is for all intents and purposes the ability to literally create a world of our own. This elevates us. No longer are we sapient beings making use of our environment: we would now be creating the environment itself. We'd be masters of our new domains, and the solar system, and eventually the universe would be firmly within our grasp.
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Wednesday, 09.10.2013, 00:17 | Message # 98 |
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| werdnaforever | Date: Friday, 11.10.2013, 23:31 | Message # 99 |
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| Quote DoctorOfSpace (  ) Quite impressive
Wow, that really is!
Now they just have to solve the sound problem.
Also, its a shame we can't replicate the sense of touch... yet. Or can we?
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Saturday, 12.10.2013, 18:53 | Message # 100 |
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| Quote werdnaforever ( ) Or can we?
The technology exists but hasn't been put into any artificial limbs as far as I have seen.
http://www.popsci.com/technol....springs
http://www.gizmag.com/flexible-sensor-artificial-skin/28213/
http://www.medgadget.com/2013....in.html
Really new stuff that will take a bit if time to be integrated properly into artificial limbs and robotics.
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| Disasterpiece | Date: Monday, 28.10.2013, 01:18 | Message # 101 |
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| Quote DoctorOfSpace ( ) The technology exists but hasn't been put into any artificial limbs as far as I have seen.
I have this secret desire to lose my arms, have them replaced by artificial limbs with ridiculous amounts of strength and then go on rampages where I tear people's heads from their bodies and throw them as far as I can.
In the future, I plan on moving to another star and living my life in solitude with nothing but the company of those hologram women from The Sixth Day (except I would have maybe 100,000 different models that would change randomly every hour).
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| Antza2 | Date: Monday, 28.10.2013, 10:25 | Message # 102 |
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| Quote Disasterpiece ( ) I have this secret desire to lose my arms, have them replaced by artificial limbs with ridiculous amounts of strength and then go on rampages where I tear people's heads from their bodies and throw them as far as I can.
You're not the only one. 
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Monday, 28.10.2013, 11:03 | Message # 103 |
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| Quote Disasterpiece ( ) I have this secret desire to lose my arms, have them replaced by artificial limbs with ridiculous amounts of strength and then go on rampages where I tear people's heads from their bodies and throw them as far as I can.
It is a tempting prospect but just wait until we are augmenting or replacing on the cellular level.
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| Samon | Date: Thursday, 31.10.2013, 16:40 | Message # 104 |
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| In future I think we all be scanned by our finger, with it we will be able to buy any food, we need, etc. Virtual life becomes more popular than real, we seldom go out the house. All the information about us will be on the web-sites like this http://radaris.com/, and it will be available for every person, somenthing like that I see the future
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| DoctorOfSpace | Date: Saturday, 29.03.2014, 05:00 | Message # 105 |
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| Some interesting talks on aging
Can't help but get some major Deus Ex vibes.
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